بري يطرح صيغة 8-8-8 الحكومية "مع تدوير الزوايا"

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اعلن رئيس مجلس النواب نبيه بري، عن صيغة حكومية تقوم على 8-8-8 مع "تدوير الزوايا"، في اطار محاولة التوافق بين الافرقاء السياسيين على حكومة سياسية.

وفي حين لم يدخل بري في تفاصيل صيغته المقترحة، رد في حديث الى صحيفة "السفير"، الاثنين، على سؤال عما إذا كان المقصود هو تعيين وزير ملك لكل من 8 و14 آذار، ضمن حصة الوسطيين، قائلاً "أنقلوا عن لساني وبالخط العريض أن اقتراحي لا علاقة له بهذا الطرح".

وأوضح "كل ما استطيع قوله الآن إن العرض المقترح يعتمد على تدوير زوايا 8-8-8، وهو لا يزال في طور البحث مع المعنيين".

الى ذلك، شدد بري كما في أكثر من مرة على رفضه "عزل" حزب الله عن الحكومة العتيدة، قائلاً أن عزله يعني "عزل حركة أمل، وبالتالي عزل الأكثرية الساحقة من أبناء الطائفة الشيعية".

ولفت بري عبر "السفير" الى أن "الانقسام السياسي الحاد يشكّل بيئة حاضنة للتفجيرات المتنقلة وللجماعات الإرهابية التي تنفذها".

وشدد على ضرورة "تعطيل هذه البيئة من خلال حكومة توافقية وجامعة، لا تضمن مشاركة الجميع وحسب، بل تضمن أيضاً إجراء انتخابات رئاسة الجمهورية في موعدها الدستوري والتمهيد لها بالشكل الملائم".

يُذكر أنه وبعد استقالة حكومة نجيب ميقاتي في آذار الفائت، تم تكليف تمام سلام تشكيل حكومة جديدة الا أن جهوده لم تنجح في ذلك، وتعهد الاستقالة بحال استقالة اي مكون من مكونات الحكومة. وفي حين تطالب قوى 14 آذار بحكومة حيادية تريد 8 آذار حكومة سياسية وقال رئيس "جبهة النضال الوطني" النائب وليد جنبلاط أنه "لن يصوت على حكومة من لون واحد".

التعليقات 38
Missing coolmec 09:40 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

lebnanfirst
make concessions? hell no our politicians will never make concessions as personal interest and personal prestige come before the country's interests
God help Lebanon

Thumb lebnanfirst 09:47 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

@coolmec,
My original comment was mysteriously deleted by Naharnet moderator(s) though for the life of me I can't figure out why. Anyway, I wrote a new one below.
Unfortunately you are correct although heretofore it was M14 doing all the concessions. Time for HA to exercise some humbleness and concede if they want Lebanon to start pulling itself out of the whole they put it in. God help Lebanon indeed.

Missing coolmec 09:51 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

lebnanfirst
I did notice the deletion of your comment. I wonder why?
Answering your comment. I am neither M8 nor M14 I hold both of them responsible for the gradual decline of the country.
What scares me though is the immense polarization of the Lebanese citizens who are continuously blaming each other for the country's ills while neither party is attempting to salvage Lebanon
How sad

Thumb lebnanfirst 10:00 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

@coolmec
In principle I agree with you that both M8 & M14 have contributed to our countries deteriorating situation. Given that the Lebanese are political animals, and that M14 has been at the receiving end of political assassinations I would rather side with them than HA and M8 especially that HA's philosophy is one of a dictatorial theocracy that I can not accept under any circumstances.

Thumb lebnanfirst 09:43 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

It is time for M8 to make concessions this time around. Enough bullying by HA et al, most Lebanese are tired of their adventures and holier than though attitude. Their foray in Syria backfired and is causing Lebanon great harm. Time to show some humbleness and for Berri to accept democracy instead of firing one threat after the other. Enough already, back off and let Lebanon breath.

Thumb lebnanfirst 10:08 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Hopefully the 8-8-8 formula will stick this time although if it contains a "king minister" we will be back at square one.
We have had enough of HA and Berri's مكابرة.

Thumb mckinl 11:16 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Everybody knows that M14 will never consent to any cabinet with HA membership ...

They have made that very clear. They only propose a technical cabinet as a ruse that no one really wants.

M14 wants to run the government and if they can not have that they want to see Lebanon pushed over the edge.

As long as the M14 leaders get their KSA checks they are willing to sacrifice Lebanon ... even their own party members.

Missing lebcan 17:13 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

@mckinl
You Say ..."M14 wants to run the government and if they can not have that they want to see Lebanon pushed over the edge."

I say the same words you say but in the place were you say its M14 I say its Hizbshytan!!! ONLY I'm not even going to mention Amal, M8 because they are totally controlled by Hizbshytan and Iran...

Missing coolmec 10:11 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

I think no formula will work if both sides don't compromise meaning both sides should put the country's interests ahead of personal interests

Missing lebcan 17:14 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

M14 compromised every time ... M8 have been getting what they want for to long... its time for M8 to really compromise.

Missing coolmec 10:28 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Hello dogkiller
how are you today my friend?

Thumb ice-man 10:28 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

OMG.... I hope the_roar is fine.....
http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/112727-naked-aussie-gets-stuck-in-washing-machine

Missing coolmec 10:29 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

dogkiller
you comments are always true and blunt. keep it up my friend

Missing coolmec 10:36 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

hummm I think Naharnet just deleted dogkiller's comment. I don't see it anymore

Thumb habib 11:15 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Ye3ni mafi telet lem3atel

Missing aounophobia 11:56 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Is the current government not a de facto one? we all know the story with the "black shirts"

is the current government not eliminating the sunni sect? (and part of the christians too). and they are the ones that won the parliamentary elections "fo2 el dakke"!

so again we always come back to double standards as usual

Missing coolmec 12:06 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

ya aounophobia
double standard, triple standard, multiple standard...
welcome to Lebanese politics...lol

Thumb mckinl 12:21 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Unfortunately Saudi money sows the seeds of evil even in Lebanon.

Thumb lonerider 13:52 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

KSA interests now are to keep the war in Syria going until Assad is ousted. Therefore, the instructions to M14 are not to compromise at any cost. Geagea said it himself a couple of weeks ago. So no matter how many proposals M8 offer, M14 will counter with some ridiculous demand like no Hizbollah in government or a neutral government. However, as the terrorist elements from KSA are getting their butts whipped in Syria, and soon their will be a political solution there, we will see a small but decisive war in Lebanon between Hizbollah, LAF against the remaining KSA terrorists. It will be at that time that KSA will come to the table and " lead" the compromise insisting they have been pushing for a solution all along.
KSA is the evil of all evil in this world.

Thumb proudm14 14:12 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

neutral government = ridiculous demand

the intelligence of an M8 supporter my friends

Thumb lonerider 15:22 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Don't be so proud sir. You lack the insight that there is no such thing as a neutral government. All Lebanese must be represented when decisions are made for the entire country. That is just over your head.

Thumb ice-man 15:30 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Should Bandar go?

Thumb proudm14 15:43 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

it is over your head that a technocratic government can serve our interests just fine...all Lebanese. The ministers themselves do not necessarily have to be neutral, but the cabinet can be comprised of non-party members who are professionals in the respective field for that particular portfolio.

there is nothing hard to understand about this, lonerider.

Thumb proudm14 15:45 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

in any case we have been in deadlock since 2005 and we have tried 2 unity governments like the one you are proposing, and one M8 government which has brought the entire country to its knees. it is time to try something new. A government split 50/50 between bitter rivals will get us nowhere.

Thumb proudm14 16:26 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

like usual, throw some facts into an M8'ers face and he doesn't reply. back the sewers he scampers.

Thumb lonerider 16:44 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Unlike you proud, I have a job do I cannot sit in front of a computer 24/7 to respond. You sound exactly like anonytexusa btw. He is always on 24/7 so I believe he changed his avatar or something.
In any case, what is there to respond to? You are not understanding that a neutral government is impossible in Lebanon just like your other avatar Anony didn't. Let's just agree to disagree and not resort to name calling, sir.

Thumb proudm14 16:46 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

you have a deal, madam.

Thumb lonerider 16:48 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

You just couldn't help your self could you. Very gentleman like. No problem. Let's move on.

Thumb proudm14 16:51 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

you spent a paragraph passive-aggressively accusing me of being another poster. i thought it fitting to call you a woman since that is how you were acting.

Thumb lonerider 19:07 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

lol, wallah made me laugh. Youre not only a racisist but a sexist also.

Missing lebcan 17:21 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

neutral government = ridiculous demand
as proudm 14 says!!!

Thumb -phoenix1 14:12 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Obviously, neither M8 nor M14 wish to see a neutral cabinet of technocrats see the day. Why one must ask? The first reason is that such a cabinet will prove within a very short time, that it could do the task and work that both M8 and M14 failed to do. The M coalitions did not fail simply because they are incompetent, no, they failed because they want to leave the nation as it is since they know that this is their only way to survive. Both Ms know that a technocrat cabinet will solve our problems, and this is the problem, when a reduced cabinet can solve, the parties will dissolve. Only brain dead people will accept what both Ms want to explain to the contrary.

Missing watan-libnan 15:51 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Does anybody think that the people who are running the country aren't happy with the situation at it is now don't kid yourselves they wan't you to think that without them there would be kaos they are all a bunch of theives i hope the saudis don't hand over the 3 billion just yet as you can bet that money won't go where it is supposed to

Missing lebcan 17:20 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

You mean you and Hizbshytan Crave...
If we crave war how come we build nice streets and buildings in our lands and you guys live like the Palestinians as though you are careless of you're land and life here...
Don't get me wrong I love the Palestinians and God willing they will go back and make a great country for themselves... and they know Lebanon is not home for them... but is it you home???...or is it IRAN??? hmmmm

Thumb beiruti 17:56 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

Under the constitution, it is the Prime Minister in concurrence with the President of the Republic who proposes a Council of Ministers. Berri, as Speaker, has the sole role of calling the Parliament to session for the purpose of casting a vote of confidence or no-confidence on the choices made in the Executive Branch.

His proposal here is outside of the constitution and more reflective of Shiite usurpation of power in Lebanon than of any legitimate powers under the Constitution delegated to the Speaker's Chair.

Thumb beiruti 18:00 ,2014 كانون الثاني 06

888 or 996, its the same difference. So instead of 9 M14 and 9 M8, there are 8 to each and each gets one of the "neutrals" which is 996 dressed up like something else.

And its all window dressing meant to cover the underlying fact that Hezbollah is running the country. It has the government but needs a convenient multi-confessional cover for its de facto control. The other confessional parties do not want to cooperate, save Jumblatt who will do anything to help stability as long as he is a keystone in holding everything stable.
Worse, HA through Berri has issued threats to those other parties, whose cover HA needs, that unless they cooperate, Hezbollah will start a car bombing assassination campaign against them.
Is it no wonder that M14 has decided not to meet in public anymore.

Default-user-icon MovingOn (ضيف) 04:16 ,2014 كانون الثاني 07

M8 and M14 are getting weaker day by day. No more wheeling and dealing. Your time is up M8 and M14. You were true failures. Lebanon and the Lebanese no longer need you. It's time for a neutral government that distances Lebanon from regional wars. You are grasping at straws. The 888 formula won't work. It will ensure the status quo and that's not acceptable. You should be lucky if you get 2 seats each with NO veto power.

Default-user-icon Truth (ضيف) 07:26 ,2014 كانون الثاني 07

The political settelement is to send Nasrallah to jail , prosecute and hang all those involved in the serial killings at leat since 2005, and ban Hizbollah !