عون يرى أن تظاهرات سوريا غير سلمية: سلاح الدولة لا يكفي لطمأنة اللبنانيين

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أكد رئيس تكتل "التغيير والإصلاح" النائب ميشال عون على استمرار معادلة الجيش والشعب والمقاومة التي "لا تنتهي إلا بإنتهاء الصراع العربي الإسرائيلي" مشددا على أن السلاح الموجود مع الدولة "لا يكفي لطمأنة اللبنانيين".

وإذ أيد عون الإصلاحات التي ينادي بها الشعب السوري أبدى رأيه أنها "ليست سلمية".

وقال عون بعد اجتماع التكتل عصر الثلثاء من الرابية :"نحن نعرف عدوانية إسرائيل وتحرشها بدون سبب لذلك أصبح لدينا فكرة عن التضامن بين الجيش والشعب والمقاومة كقوة رادعة لا ننتصر بها على أرض إسرائيل بل أقله على أرضنا".

وإذ أعلن أن "هذه القضية لا تنتهي إلا بإنهاء الصراع العربي الإسرائيلي" رأى أن "الإستسلام بدل المقاومة يقضي علينا نهائيا".

وأيد عون الحوار الوطني "مع مواضيع محددة سابقا وليس كما قبل أي الإنحراف عن الإستراتيجية الدفاعية إلى سلاح حزب الله" مضيفا:"لا الجيش قادر وحده على الدفاع عن الوطن ولا حتى المقاومة".

وعن ما إذا كان يؤيد الحسم العسكري في سوريا أوضح أن "قوى الأمن لها الحق في الدفاع عن نفسها إذا أطلق النار عليها وهذا ما يجري في كل دول العالم".

وحول موقف البطريرك الذي قال أن انتشار السلاح خارج المؤسسة العسكرية لا يرتاح اليه كل الشعب اللبناني رد عون:"السلاح الموجود مع الدولة لا يكفي لطمأنة اللبنانيين وهذا ليس ردا على البطريرك إنما هذه هي المعادلة الصحيحة ومن الآن حتى يصبح سلاح الدولة كافيا فالآخر ضروري".

وتابع في السياق عينه:"الدستور يحفظ حق التظاهر وليس حق الشغب والأمن السوري يقمع الشغب وليس التظاهر ونحن نرى اليوم مشاهد بشعة في سوريا من قتل الجنود وغيرها فهذه ليست سلمية نحن مع الشعب السوري في الإصلاحات".

واعتبر أنه "مع حرية الإعلام وتعدد الأحزاب واجتماع للمعارضة في سوريا تبين أن الغاية من التظاهرة هي سياسيات دولية أو عربية على سوريا لأنها المفتاح بما خص السلام مع إسرائيل وشؤون المياه ووقوفها في الممانعة".

وأعلن أن "ما يجري في سوريا ليس قمعا وإنما دفاعا عن النفس تقوم به القوى الأمنيّة و"حقوق الإنسان" شعار غربي تجاري".

وتشهد سوريا منذ منتصف آذار حركة احتجاج تصدت لها قوات الامن بعنف. وتقول منظمات حقوقية ان حصيلة ضحايا هذه الحركة وقمعها ارتفع الى حوالى الفي قتيل بينهم اكثر من 1600 مدني وحوالى 375 من افراد الجيش وقوى الامن الداخلي.

وإذ ترك عون أمر التعيينات "للمستقبل اللاحق" قال لا أحد يقدر على تغطية ماض سيئ ومن هو وضعه غير قانوني سيطبق عليه القانون".

وأعلن رئيس تكتل "التغيير والإصلاح" تأيدده لقانون النسبية في الإنتخابات النيابية.

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  • 17:18 ,2011 آب 02

    عون: السلاح الموجود مع الدولة لا يكفي لطمأنة اللبنانيين وهذا ليس ردا على البطريرك

  • 17:17 ,2011 آب 02

    عون: أنا أعلن موقفي من تعيين ريفي وغيره وسنرى في المستقبل ماذا يحصل وأنا مع قانون النسبية في الإنتخابات

  • 17:16 ,2011 آب 02

    عون: الحكومة نعبر عن ذاتها في ما خص موقف الحريري مما يحصل في حماه وأنا رأيي الشخصي أنه مع حرية الإعلام وتعدد الأحزاب واجتماع للمعارضة في سوريا تبين أن الغاية هي سياسيات دولية أو عربية على سوريا لأنها المفتاح بما خص السلام مع إسرائيل وشؤون المياه ووقوفها في الممانعة

  • 17:14 ,2011 آب 02

    عون: المعارضة اعتادت الكذب على الناس والكاذب لا يمكن أن يصدق أحدا يتكلم بصدق

  • 17:12 ,2011 آب 02

    عون عن ما إذا كان يؤيد الحسم العسكري في سوريا: قوى الأمن لها الحق في الدفاع عن نفسها إذا أطلق النار عليها وهذا ما يجري في كل دول العالم، فالدستور يحفظ حق التظاهر وليس حق الشغب لذا فإن الأمن السوري يقمع الشغب وليس التظاهر ونحن نرى اليوم مشاهد بشعة في سوريا من قتل الجنود وغيرها فهذه ليست سلمية نحن مع الشعب السوري في الإصلاحات

  • 17:10 ,2011 آب 02

    عون: غدا هناك جلستين تشريعيتين فيها مقدمة من مشاريع معدلة مكررة مقدمة منذ فصل الشتاء لأن لا قواعد في التعاطي في هذه الدولة وهناك إهانة في منطق الجدل السياسي، لا قضية يدافع عنها بمصلحة عامة، كل أحد يقيس الوطن على قياسه ونحذر من استمرار هذا الوضع ولا أحد يقدر على تغطية ماض سيئ ومن هو وضعه غير قانوني سيطبق عليه القانون

  • 17:05 ,2011 آب 02

    عون: الإستسلام بدل المقاومة يقضي علينا نهائيا وإسرائيل لا ترغب بالسلام

  • 17:03 ,2011 آب 02

    عون: نحن مع الحوار الوطني مع مواضيع محددة سابقا فلا الجيش قادر وحده على الدفاع عن الوطن ولا حتى المقاومة ومفوض من يتكل على القرارات الدولية لأن إسرائيل هي التي تعتدي

  • 17:02 ,2011 آب 02

    رئيس تكتل "التغيير والإصلاح" النائب ميشال عون بعد اجتماع التكتل من الرابية: نتوجه بالتهاني إلى نؤسسة الجيش قيادة وضباط ورتباء وأفراد خاصة أن لدينا عدو ذكرنا أن لدينا مؤسسة قوية ومن يطالب بتأمين أمن الوطن من قبل الجيش وحده عليه أن يؤمن له مطالبه وزيادة وسائل الحماية

  • 17:00 ,2011 آب 02

    عون: ما حدث أمس طبيعي فنحن نعرف عدوانية إسرائيل وتحرشها بدون سبب لذلك بدون التوسع في الإستنتاج والتحليل أصبح لدينا فكرة عن التضامن بين الجيش والشعب والمقاومة كقوة رادعة لا ننتصر بها على أرض إسرائيل بل أقله على أرضنا وهذه القضية لا تنتهي إلا بإنهاء الصراع العربي الإسرائيلي

التعليقات 56
Default-user-icon Themis (ضيف) 17:20 ,2011 آب 02

Assad will fall, and Aoun the clown here will deny ever having defended him today. It's sad, because this guy once had some moral courage.

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 17:28 ,2011 آب 02

This man is ridiculous, he has lost all legitamscy just like his Syrian pimp. He's a Syrian tool in the utmost definition of the word. Le general; you do realize it is illogical to support the butchering of the Syrian people AND their call for reforms at the same time? Has Nadia gone as crazy as u? Smebody needs to lock this man in a nursing home and never let him out he is clearly out of his mind

Default-user-icon Citizen-1 (ضيف) 17:28 ,2011 آب 02

Here we go again: The Weekly Horror Show...ok!
MP Aoun on whether he supports military action in Syria: The constitution allows the freedom to demonstrate, not the freedom to riot. The Syrian security forces are suppressing riots, not protests. We support the Syrian people’s call for reform.

Did you and your supporters demonstrate in 2007-2009 or riot??? Burning tires, blocking roads, erecting sand barricades on roads, and eventually declaring war on Beirut and its residents is considered demonstrating and not rioting (and not a criminal act) huh?

History has already judged you as a worthless failed individual both politically and morally.

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 17:31 ,2011 آب 02

And to you FPM loyalists: does this man actually make sense to you?? Or do u just follow him like sheep? Did u people not realize how his stance has completely shifted since his release? He went from the top Syrian opposer even to the extent of blaming Syria for the slaying of rafic Hariri on national French TV, to joining the Anti zionist-amewikkan axis! You people are either as senile as ur leader or just a flock of empty headed sheep.

Default-user-icon Phoenicienne (ضيف) 17:37 ,2011 آب 02

Simply disgusting.

Thumb canaanite 17:39 ,2011 آب 02

@ithinkthere14iam,.. I am with you and thumbs up to all your comments... It's progressive people like us that can move our country forward... Lets keep up the pressure on these destroyers like this crazy man and his gargoyle followers... Gemayel and Geagea are the rocks of Lebanon and the true representatives of Lebanese Christians... The Aounist movement will disappear with Aoun's retirement.. It is after all based upon an obsession with a man and not a country or idealogy. For the Aounists, Michel Aoun's retirement would be like breaking up with a girlfriend... They might try follow Gebran Bassil on the rebound...

Default-user-icon Ali (ضيف) 17:39 ,2011 آب 02

was Hamzah the teenager whose penis was cut off while he was alive a rioter or a demonstrator protected by the constitution, Mr. ex-General? Was the singer in Hama who sang "Irhal Anna Ya Bashar" and was kidnapped the very same evening he sang that song and later found dead with his throat slit and his vocals removed a rioter or a demonstrator? Was the 18 months old baby who was killed yesterday a rioter too? Over 250 children have been killed so far in the uprising, were they also rioters Ya Generale....? Wlak just for the sake of human decency of which you have none, SHUT THE **** UP!

Default-user-icon Phoenicienne (ضيف) 17:40 ,2011 آب 02

http://www.uruknet.de/?s1=1&p=80081&s2=02

Default-user-icon Voyager (ضيف) 17:46 ,2011 آب 02

MP Aoun on Syrian developments: Security forces have the right to defend themselves if they are fired at. This happens all over the world.

You never cease to amaze..... ! What happened to the lebanese security forces when they opened fire on the thugs of Amal and Hizbullah in Chiyah after these thugs disarmed the soldiers???? You were demanding the officers who gave the orders to fire on the thugs be brought to justice and disciplined.....!!! It is getting sick to have to remind you of your not so distant stances. Now, you have to go out of your way to defend the barbaric acts of the syrian regime; acts which the whole world regardless of its political stances have acknowledged as being repressive! What kind of hired gun are you? I feel sorry for those who vote for a person like you..... what a shame. People like you depress me and make me feel there is no hope in this country...

Default-user-icon Le Phenicien (ضيف) 17:48 ,2011 آب 02

La force tranquille ! That's what we can say about GMA today . Lebanon is in good hands , no place for corruption or thieves anymore .

For the ones that have nothing else but insults , that shows your " état d'esprit " now that you are completly out , and for many many years to come .

Try to have better arguments , if you want US to answer you or to have a serious dialogue HERE or around a table , like your leaders of yesterday that have become " has been " keep asking for .

This dialogue is another " dialogue de sourds " .. Enjoy yourselves in the sun , and have a good tan , you will need it , because the coming news will make you look pale , grenn and yellow soon ...

Default-user-icon Independence (ضيف) 17:59 ,2011 آب 02

MP Aoun: Everyone is taking advantage of the state to achieve their own interests. No one can cover up his bad history.

Yes, Aoun how true your words are.... No one can cover up his BAD history..... not even you!

Thumb bipartisan 18:07 ,2011 آب 02

Well excuse me Mr. Aoun but first we don't agree on many issues. If the resistance is substantial against the enemy and the national army is not enough than i think that the lebanese forces should have also been substantial against what you declared as an enemy which by all means was syria back in the 1980s and then the war of the 1989 is no longer justified and then you have a lot to explain to the mothers of the slain soldiers, some of whom are still with an ignored fate. That doesn't mean that i agree with the LF but astonishingly most of the LF murderers stand by your side and i think will stand by the side of any new winner. Nader Sukkar, Georges Kassab, Kareem Bakradouni, do those names ring a bell, i am not pointing that the FPM shares the same characteristics as those spiraling figures, but i am pointing to the fact that those figures are always there to take advantage whenever lebanese are apart so please lebanese leaders, sit on one table, do not rely on those messengers

Default-user-icon N (ضيف) 18:11 ,2011 آب 02

General is right. The army alone cannot defend the nation and neither can hizb-el-shitan. We should invite the syrians back to Lebanon and while at it also invite Iran. They have a great record of fighting against the greatest enemy, their own people.

Thumb bipartisan 18:20 ,2011 آب 02

There is something astonishing about the leaders of this country. Whenever someone of March 14 addresses issues of syria he is automatically accused of violating syrian sovereignty but today Mr Aoun do not violate syrian sovereignty by addressing the "internal issue" of syria. As well Mr. Saad Hariri took the same path with different directions, two days ago he supported the syrian people against "the tyranny" of the government. The truth is that liberty does not know boundaries and that everyone should be allowed to speak freely but with decency. This does not mean interference, this means compassion. Then we should attain the understanding that interference occur when an external party contributes with an internal party in a manner that contradicts the law in practice, and that is far of what is going on now

Default-user-icon Lebanese-1 (ضيف) 18:26 ,2011 آب 02

FPM leader MP Michel Aoun after Change and Reform bloc’s weekly meeting: Whoever is demanding that the army alone defend the nation should provide it with its needs.

Are you saying then it is ok if Egypt, KSA, Argentine, USA, or China provide a certain sect in lebanon with arms under the pretext of defending the nation and make the privilege of "resistence"exclusive to that sect? Has it occurred to you with the provisions of free weapons there is a hegemony that is implied and actually demanded? Perhaps, you don't think that far.....!

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 18:27 ,2011 آب 02

Also canaanite: I agree. FPM has no future and it is truly a party of one COWARD. Basil will never win e hearts of the dummies in FPM, and these sad former ouwet w kataeb followers will soon be back with the sensible majority, or fall with their sinking ship

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 18:27 ,2011 آب 02

Canaanite: thank you for the thumbs, and I as well completely agree with you. Though amine is not as strong and as tough with his rhetoric as geagea, the both of them are still, like you said, the rock of Lebanese politics and truly represent the PROGRESIVE christians. Kataeb has a very nice future, Sami is becoming a man nd he is becoming a lil hybrid of his brother and sheikh bashir. Nadim is breaking out of his shell, and I see this man to do everything he can to make th Lebanon his father wanted so much. Lebanon be grateful, without the young men of kataeb w ouwet (and of course let's not forget our brothers mustaqbal) the international community would have given up on Lebanon a loooong time ago. Long live e fantastic m14 trio

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 18:28 ,2011 آب 02

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=WFmoINybxaU

For those who haven't seen the FPM leader accusing Syria of killing rafic Hariri, the link is above! Pease share with ur FPM buddies! Spread the truth people

Default-user-icon rob (ضيف) 18:29 ,2011 آب 02

THIS GUY IS INSANE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! shame on him !! how can he defend what the syrian regime is doing ??? He is also saying now that the people are uncomfortable with the sole protection of the army ?!! he wasnt exactly of that opinion when the christian area was surrounded by the syrians and he decided to disarm the lebanese forces nonetheless. Not that i am a fan of the LF but i cant help but noticing that this guy changes his speech according to his own interests. He has no moral values, he is simply disgusting!! It is really beyond me that any christian lebanese can vote for this charlatan... this is really sad ...

Default-user-icon moallek (ضيف) 18:36 ,2011 آب 02

Michel AOUN aux libanais.

Libanais, pauvres imbéciles, comprenez-moi,
Grâce au BOTOX, j’ai rajeuni, regardez-moi,
Pour vous séduire et vous tromper il n’y a que moi,
Toutes les femmes qui me voient tombent en émoi.

Oui, comprenez, il n’y a que moi, il n’y a que moi.
Ne me demandez pas de penser à vos fins de mois,
Pour compter tout mon argent, il n’y a que moi,
Pour vous vendre au plus offrant, il n’y que moi.

Réjouissez-vous, réjouissez-vous, pour moi,
GEBRAN, le mari de ma fille est mon gendre à moi,
Il est toujours ministre et ne le doit qu’à moi,
Allez laissez-vous faire, adorez-moi.

Peu importe que vous soyez réduits en esclavage,
Que vos enfants quittent pour d’autres rivages,
Puisque c’est moi qui en profite, toujours moi,
Et qu’un jour GEBRAN continuera comme moi.

Default-user-icon nofear (ضيف) 19:32 ,2011 آب 02

When will these "leaders" stop underestimating the intelligence of the Lebanese and Arab people and realize that fear tactics don't work anymore? No one is scared of Israel or the US or HA or Iran or Syria anymore. In fact I truly believe that Lebanon will be a much stronger state today if we had no weapons at all than weapons in the hands of the radicals. All the weapons are doing is giving Israel an excuse to attack our land. Lay down the weapons and the whole world will support us and force Israel to back away from our affairs.

Missing leb4all 19:36 ,2011 آب 02

Idontthinkthere4ihaveasamigemayel picture is back. It's so stupid to watch these M14 address the syrian issue and condemn it like their hearts and souls are with the Syrian people, you're only praying for russian and chinese condemnation so you'd be powerful like once upon a time. Depending on foreign developments to empower you domestically, M14 is a joke, the best one.

Missing leb4all 19:36 ,2011 آب 02

And to you phalangistsand LF fanatics, it's 2011. Really, it's been more than 22 years. Your history is far behind you and we all know your political weight. 9 total MPs; give or take a few years and Wiah Wahhab will be as popular in Lebanon lol. The resistance has the thumbs up by the lebanese majority and all you can do is keep crying and whining.

Default-user-icon rogary (ضيف) 19:51 ,2011 آب 02

We are led mostly by murderers, fanatics, gangsters, schizophrenics, and sick guys on the fringe of Alzheimer...... the would be general is only a puppet who will vanish in the abyss of history. The same for his master in Damascus who will hopefully be judged for mass murder. Finally, the Lebanese army can do the job on its own provided no militia and "resistance fighters" are there to bugg us all....

Default-user-icon Le Phenicien (ضيف) 20:00 ,2011 آب 02

SHN put GMA in charge of answering Abou Samir Rahi's comments yesterday about the "constitutional institutions, the security forces, and army" equation.

Default-user-icon Youssef Haddad (ضيف) 20:04 ,2011 آب 02

Again we do not blame this power crazed self centered fool but we do blame those who follow him. They should take a step back and look at how demaning it is to have a leader such as Aoun.
Anyone who alines himself with the butcher of damascus does not belong in a civilized community. Have the courage and step away from this fool before he destroys all what is left.

Thumb bashir 20:05 ,2011 آب 02

One would think that a politician, who actually believed that our military was of insufficent strength to protect us, would be be calling for us to strengthen our military. If that politician is a former head of our Army you would think this doubly so!

But not old GMA, he thinks a lawless militia outside state control is the way to go. Way to honor our Army you traitor.

Insanity.

Default-user-icon Moe (ضيف) 20:14 ,2011 آب 02

This guy is bipolar, back in the years when syria was in control, his members were getting kidnapped and beat senselessly and arrested. Now, he actually supports these things because they are "riots". seriously i think he has issues.

Thumb tabasco 20:19 ,2011 آب 02

نطلب العون من القدير للاعانة على استحمال عون

Default-user-icon Pierre (ضيف) 20:31 ,2011 آب 02

It wont end until the Arab-Israeli conflict is over. He is turning into a parrot repeating what Nasrallah says. This means that this situation will never end, HA will always have weapons because the conflict is not going to end. I dont want to be part of the Arab-Israeli conflict. I want to be part of Building a prosperous Lebanon, a Lebanon without conflict built on laws.

Default-user-icon aoun's a tool (ضيف) 20:41 ,2011 آب 02

General Aoun the most loyal servant money can buy.

Default-user-icon Hanna (ضيف) 21:08 ,2011 آب 02

“Security forces have the right to defend themselves when they are fired at.”

We didn't hear you say that when Hizb fired at Lebanese Army helicopter and killed its pilot, or when they beat up security forces dong their job in Dahieh, or when they fired at civilians on May 7, ...

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 21:29 ,2011 آب 02

And no leb4all,the majority of Lebanese don't agree with the resistance. Mustaqbal alone is the majority of Lebanese, and they all say NO to your weapons! Open ur eyes and look around u, ur only friends r the Shiite and idiot gma sheep. What a bright group of friends!

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 21:29 ,2011 آب 02

Leb4all you are a complete FOOL! m8 runs on Syrian and Iranian $$$ and slaps on the behind, So do not point a finger which can be pointed at yourself. M14 doesn't take handouts nor are they subjects to another power, we are progressive open minded people whom stand fir what's right. Supporting 2 regimes that suppress and kill their people is clearly only for those who benefit from these tyrants. If it was any other way, tell us why support Assad or Iran? How do u benefit from countries who can barely feed theirnown people? Whom's economy is hundreds of years behind? If u want to be oppressed go ahead, catch abtaxi to Damascus. But Lebanon? Our Lebanon? Is a land of plurality and freedom.

Thumb mrbrain 22:43 ,2011 آب 02

is Aoun corrupted?

Thumb loveandpeace 22:45 ,2011 آب 02

This guy is so weird! He keeps on compromising himself and his followers to positions that are geting more extreem and more stupid by the day. People should realise that if he thinks what happens in Syria is within the limits of legitimacy, should he be in a power position in Lebanon he would to the Lebanese what Assad is doing to the Syrians! He is indecent and almost dangerous.

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 23:29 ,2011 آب 02

Thanks for removing my Deir al saleeb post naharnet, nice to know m8 supporters can wish death upon my heroes but I am not allowed to say a crazy lunatic belongs in a crazy house

Default-user-icon zampano (ضيف) 01:12 ,2011 آب 03

Undoubtedly, Hariri father spread a lot of money, but also made a lot of money through Solidere (and robbed indirectly many).

Undoubtedly, some of the "traditional" Christian parties lost credibility in insisting to have kids (Gemayel) keep the leadership.

Undoubtedly, without the millions from Iran, HA will not have the wide "support" amongst its religious group.

And, undoubtedly, most of the GMA fans are amongst those desilusioned above, and their anger, rage is feeding their blindness to what this schizoprenic man is doing to destroy our beloved country.

Missing leb4all 01:16 ,2011 آب 03

@ Idontthinkthere4imretarded:
You said M14 are not subjects to another power, then explain to me, why was there a 10m2 picture of the Saudi king on your M14 rally???
You say M8 are not the majority. Do you know that the shiites are 37% of the population, do you know that Aoun has a 53% popular majority amongst the christians? Do you know that Frangieh is not counted in the 53%? Do you know that 30% of the Druze were with M8 before Jumblatt's latest shift? So tell me doesn't that all make around 60-70% of are you just retarded? You said "Our Lebanon". You know that the retard's party you have in your pic let the palestinians in OUR Lebanon and started the problem. Had there been no Gemayel's, no HA, no SYRIA, no problems. 2al mustaqbal is the majority of lebanese, you definitely have IQ of a slipper and I pity you, the weak minority.

Missing leb4all 01:32 ,2011 آب 03

You proved my point exactly by pointing to Iran and Syria's economies to prove a point. Again, you look at external factors who you think are exactly tied to Lebanon. So wait, since the USA is drowning in debt and increasing the debt ceiling, it makes perfect sense we're drowning in debt too considering we were their allies under the previous governments right? OR wait, we're supposed to be as rich as Saudi since your Mustaqbal boys are their puppets right? The economies are never linked in these situations. Your arguments are flawed and you need many lessons in demographics and politics starting with ur mustaqbal are the majority argument. Here's a census taken in 1986, the last one since after the Taef, no censuses were officialy taken and we both know how much the Shia reproduce, and if you need proof GMA has 53%, I'll be glad to drop more knowledge on you. http://www.gl.iit.edu/govdocs/maps/Lebanon%27s%20main%20Religious%20Groups.gif

Default-user-icon October 13 1990 (ضيف) 01:42 ,2011 آب 03

Should the coward be more concerned about defending the right of Christians to own land in Lebanon without having it confiscated by the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon under the pretext that it it part of the Resistance effort.

Default-user-icon proGMA (ضيف) 01:54 ,2011 آب 03

Soon a barbarian regime will fall and its agents too.....

Default-user-icon eli (ضيف) 02:23 ,2011 آب 03

The truth is neither the army nor Hizballah can stand against Israel. All this talk is bull sh-t. What we need is peace with Israel.I think peace will happen as soon as the government in Syria changes hands.

Thumb shab 03:10 ,2011 آب 03

It's nothing but entertaiment

Missing leb4all 03:46 ,2011 آب 03

I'm appalled. You lost the argument and got a little personal I see, "fuck head" and other insults, it's okay, it only shows your standard :). Now let me start dropping more knowledge on you, you won in 09 so you are the popular majority right? My retarded friend, Lebanon goes by electoral districts in their voting system. That doesn't infer a popular voting system. Some areas might be less populated but have more parliamentary seats. Popular majority means majority of the population which M8 has because as I stated the Shiites are the biggest sect and Aoun and Frangieh together hold more than 60% of the christian votes. Now, you seem to love America and tend to think they will solve Lebanon's problems. Did they pay our debt? Did they help at least? Don't we still need visas to visit their country? Did they say anything that helps our case in our gas fields? Did they give our army weapons to defend ourselves against the Israelis? Didn't they terminate arms transfers after our army

Missing leb4all 03:55 ,2011 آب 03

defended itself at the border last summer? Did they kick out the Syrians for us while we were being kicked and bashed by them (Thank you LF fo inviting them BTW)? Did America at LEAST help us get 3G connection which they've had for a long time and I'm not being greedy and askng for 4G here! Moving on, it's propaganda the reason you had the Saudi king's picture right? The owner of the building loves Saudi so he hanged that picture? hahahhahahahahahaha you are so retarded I feel like Einstein. Another retarded comment by you, America can not default and it didn't bla bla bla.. Do you know that they had to amend their constitution to pass that bill or else it would've defaulted. If you were watching Nancy Pelosi address the house today, she even said I don't approve of it but we have no choice. America is drowning in debt, and attacking Iran was an option and it will never be again. They don't have the money to sustain their army during the war and the price of oil will go up drastically.

Missing leb4all 04:02 ,2011 آب 03

It's enough that China owns 60% of the US debt and they're panicking. On a more serious note now, thank you. Really I first thought I was misjudging you by your pic but you definitely proved me right that you are demented :). Now, go back to your bashing, ranting, whining and moaning about how hard it is being under M8 control but it's always gonna be this way and if you have a problem go to Martyr's square and wave your flag, because in the end, that's all you can do you little bird.

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 04:59 ,2011 آب 03

U have way too much time on ur hands. U started personal attacks, so idk what ur complaining about. Instead of personally attacking everything u pointed out (which is laugahably wrong), u can do this for me: what POSITIVE things have syria done in Lebanon? Key word POSITIVE, p-o-s-I-t-I-ve. Eno; not killing politicial foes, killing and raping civilians, and exploiting our natural resources ;)

Nit that the Americans basically completely equipped our army, not that our police is fully equipped with American gear, not that the Americans have helped countless generations of Lebanese the best education in the world, nit that America has developed Lebanon's embarrassing agriculture and environment sector. Where is the Syrian HELP? Where is the IRANIAN? and buddy, pumping hezbollah with $$ nd missiles and paying the general's bills doesn't count ;)

U hate America so much? Taeb, don't speak English don't watch American tv don't eat American food don't wear American clothes, etc etc.

Thumb ithinkthere14iam 05:00 ,2011 آب 03

Just do as the rat does, hide in a hole and wrap yourself in a towel. Enjoy life to the fullest! :)

Missing hiram-of-tyre 12:13 ,2011 آب 03

The Free Lebanese: Arms Present under militia Control Do Not Put Lebanese at Ease.

The Lebanese Army and Only The Lebanese Army

Default-user-icon Stavros (ضيف) 14:49 ,2011 آب 03

If the army's weapons are not enough to put the lenaeses citizens at ease, then maybe all lebanese parties should get mobilized and armed. will that put you at ease idiot.

Default-user-icon Fuziyad (ضيف) 15:08 ,2011 آب 03

Mowaten, an easy one for you: if Bashar has the support of the majority of Syrian why doesn't he call for elections?

Thumb bipartisan 15:30 ,2011 آب 03

I see plenty of guys here are asking themselves who the majority is in lebanon? wether it is March 8 or March 14, guys please the chronicles of that issue are becoming so boring, get over it. First lets admit that relatively the numbers you all interpret if red properly only means that March 14 and March 8 are relatively with the same popularity. But please don't forget that this debate is useless. Can we start debating where do we want our country to be 20 years from now instead of quarreling each others about who has the largest popularity. I think that what unites both 14 march and 8 march is that they are both hungry even starving, penniless and soon homeless, why? because they are using their energy and brain to come up with the best excuses to defend their political figures rather than do their critical thinking

Default-user-icon ASSAAD123 (ضيف) 16:24 ,2011 آب 03

ça n'a pas de sens la resistance du hezbollah tout seul, s'il ya danger il faut armer tout le peuple sinon l'armee suffit. dire que le liban a besoin de la resistance des sciites seulement est inacceptable. Ceux qui trouvent indispensable les armes du Hezbollah et ne cherchent pas a armer leurs hommes sont des hyppocrites

Default-user-icon Pacifier (ضيف) 16:48 ,2011 آب 03

Leb4all, when you want to say something please refer to real facts not what your parents tell you , the PALESTINIANS were settled in Lebanon after the CAIRO agreement, in 69 by General emile boustani and yasser arafat, and so the palestinian camps began... it was not the Gemayels that brought them so stop your bullshit.

- Second, Pierre Gemayel the father didnt not invite Syria, it was already inside Lebanon by controlling a militia called JEICH TA7RIR EL PHALASTINI, which was causing more problems than the PLO, and was SYRIA's idea so it can bug Lebanon and we would ask her to make them stop, but rather than just stopping them, they entered with their own army.

- Third,after all the attacks on churchs and our lands, christian had to defend themselves, hadnt been for the LF and Phalangist, you would be buried a long time ago my friend, and Frangieh's Marada were between the first people to enter the war with us in 75 against those ennemies before the killing of tony frangieh.

Default-user-icon Pacifier (ضيف) 16:57 ,2011 آب 03

The LFs and Phalangist protected Lebanon, while the world was against us, France , USA, all sold us out to the Syrians which armed palestinians as well so they can all share our Lebanon. Where were you my friend when they destroyed our downtown, our lands, raped our women, acted above the autority installed which was our army, where were you? of course, you can deny the fact, since you are with the same kind of people that are ruining Lebanon today. And why should the US help you ? you bombed 360 of their marines in 82 attack of hezbollah, so they withdrawed any kind of support to us, because of terrorism, but must i remind you that before 75, direct flights wre available to Lebanon from US cities, so stop your hate, and your dear Hezb is infiltrated by the people you dispise, Mossad and CIA, they are dining daily inside your friend nasrallah's sewers 1232 underground. he talked about them then the case disappeared? what did he do to them? what a load of crap