جعجع لعون: "لنتفق على رئيس او لنتنافس"
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قدم رئيس "حزب القوات اللبنانية" سمير جعجع اقتراحيْن على رئيس "التيار الوطني الحر" النائب ميشال عون، اما اللقاء والاتفاق على اسم لرئاسة الجمهورية أو المنافسة، وفق ما أفادته المعلومات الصحافية.
ففي وقت تجري المؤسسات المارونية الثلاث على القيادات المارونية السياسية، نقلت صحيفة "اللواء"، الخميس عن قيادي ماروني بارز أن جعجع أبلغ وفد المؤسسات المارونية، بأن لديه اقتراحين تمنى إيصالهما لعون.
والاقتراحان هما: "إما أن يجتمع بعون ويتفق معه على مرشح من خارج القادة الأربعة، أو أن يُعلن عون أنه مرشح ويخوض الانتخابات الرئاسية على هذا الأساس".
وقال جعجع: "إذا فاز عون فأنا أول من أهنئه".
وكانت المؤسسات المارونية قد زارت رئيس "حزب الكتائب" امين الجميل، الاربعاء، بعد ان كانت التقت جعجع، وحطت جولتها الخميس في الرابية حيث التقت عون.
ومن المتوقع ان يجمعها لقاء في بنشعي برئيس "تيار المردة" سليمان فرنجية يوم الاربعاء المقبل. وتختتم المؤسسات جولتها، بلقاء البطريرك الماروني الكاردينال مار بشارة بطرس الراعي.
يُشار الى ان جعجع هو مرشح قوى 14 آذار للرئاسة في حين ان عون المنتمي الى 8 آذار، يصرّ على عدم خوض الانتخابات ما لم يتم التوافق عليه.
ودخل لبنان في الاسبوع الاول من الشغور الرئاسي بعد فشل النواب في انتخاب رئيس جديد ورفض الرئيس السابق ميشال سليمان تمديد ولايته والقى خطاب الوداع في 24 أيار.
ج.ش.
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Hakim you are the only one trying to find a credible solution to our problems, god bless every truly patriotic Lebanese. You have not only pioneered the way we now measure our presidential hopefuls but have demonstrated a mature approach to tackling the real issues in Lebanon, and time and again you extend your hand to those who are lessor than you yet feel the world owes them everything. unfortunately aoun is not man enough to swallow his pride and accept your offer as he truly believes he is the messiah of Lebanon. Hakim for president...
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But according to the "report" your Hakim seems to be seeking someone other than your Hakim for president, as if the Hakim is the shaker baker of Lebanese politics! Too bad the Syrian occupation army is no longer in Lebanon for him to jump once again into their arms and scheme with them against ebn balado...
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Wrong shobhan that is according to you. Geagea is trying to find a solution to the mess aoun and HA have put us in. Once again he is offering constructive solutions. Does it not appear logical that the two main Christian representatives sit down and find agreement??? Unbelievable. Had aoun thought of this your tone would clearly be different but a typical aouniye does not accept common sense.
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FT good one but why not use your one of your other regular member's names
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"Blzzzz run against me General! I need to be revalent again :( -
Says the Israeli conspirator....lady Gaga loOked so nice in his Blue IDF uniform standing with his old master Sharon...Ahhh the good ol days as he calls them
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Rafehh afraid? Lmaooooo a Lion dosnt fear a sheep! As if Lady Gaga ever even had a shot! The General is a honorable and worthy man he dosnt waste his time with convicted murders and pretenders...Labayka ya General! :)
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Honourable? like how he ran and left this men?
Please, neither of them are honourable. Or any of those civil war mugs.
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Labayka Ya General!!! Geagea is running for president. If Aoun wants the job, he should run. Otherwise, he is a coward!
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Resistance Shmezistance...You are a bunch of assassins and thieves who only know how to threaten, torture, maim, blow up, deal drugs, steal African countries, wound civilians, throw acid at women, hate, and pray. You are the mirror image of the Islamo Nazis Al Qaeda and its affiliates.
You are no builders, inventors, scientists, poets, writers, democrats, entrepreneurs and writers. You are devils.
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he's always been afraid...since the 80's ... fixated on a guy called samir geagea...
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Flame if the elephant you refer to is aoun then he is clearly afraid of the mouse. Or in this case the sewer rat.
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Better an ex-Israeli ally than a current ally of the Islamo Fascist Islamic Republic of Iran.
Lady Gaga looks better than Hassouna in chador any hour of the day.
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Did I mention that Mussulaouni ran like a coward and left his men to be slaughtered by the Baathist troops and their evil allies.
He left his wife and kids behind too.
Is this what you call a lion? Mussulaouni is cockroach like his Islamo Fascist ally who currently dwells underground.
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Sorry flame thrower but the LF's artillery was more effective than the Lebanese army's during the war of liberation, especially in August 1989 and the attack on Souk al Gharb. For three consecutive days the Syrian artillery launched a fierce non stop barrage on the free zone and by the third day most of the Lebanese Army and Lebanese forces artillery had been almost silenced with only the LF guns in Jouret El Termos in mountains of Keserwan still able to keep sustainable fire. The front of Souk al Gharb was breached under the cover of intense Syrian bombing by fighters from PSP,SSNP, Communist and Baath with pro Syrian Palestinians but were destroyed right there by the Jouret El Termos guns before they could get a foothold. During the four day battle those gun hit Syrian targets in the Bekaa. General Aoun himself sent a personal commendation to each and everyone of those gunner.
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wolf WTF are you ranting about? it appears the only comments you know how to make are insults. I would suggest you stop sniffing that harmless chlorine my friend, who ever told you it is harmless was clearly lying to you..
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Thank you wolf for the intelligent reply. It is apparent who's parents need to feel ashamed of.
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Lol wolf you are quiet the comic. Why would I reply to you and then report you at the same time? I would have preferred your comment remained as you do such a brilliant job of insulting yourself. You clearly do not need my help brainiac. A quality you can thank your parents for.
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I can easily show you that map!!
I give HA ALLLLLL the south!! khallineh chouf chou bya3mel balena!
There is a reason why he didn't accept to open "rene Mouawad Airport"
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Assuming HA does not vote for aoun? If they do then he and Geagea would need jumblots vote. After the first round you would see helou or others with less votes drop out and then give their preferences either way and so forth until a president is chosen. Simple as that.
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southern if he has no chance of wining ..what is Aoun afraid off?
simple question
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if GiGi is not the right person (and I agree), do you really think that "3aou3aou" is????
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popular vote, let the people decide the only solution for outside interferences and it will stop sterile political debates, no tamdid , no ta3til ,....
god bless democracy
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If Hakim does not want Aoun to become president, why is it that he so desperately wants him to run for the presidency? Secondly, if it is Geagea vs Aoun, how does this guarantee that one of them will become president? Which one of them has 65 votes? if neither, what's the point?
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That's ultimatly the end result aoun insistence on him or no one else just prolongs the wait.
(1) This picture used for this thread is an old one, dating back to the days of the Doha treaty. All the same, both leaders now to sit together and without any coaching either and let both do the right thing, to understand that both of them can no longer provide any new solutions to an enduring problem. If both men have at heart the well-being of the nation, then they should right now sit together in an atmosphere of cordiality and entente, and chose together a candidate that will be mandated to fill in this most sensitive of posts. Some may think that this post is constitutionally allocated to the Christians, sure, that's correct, but what many should know is this:
(2)....that Lebanon is right now bleeding economically and without a president this country is doomed to the kind of failures that possibly eradicate Lebanon form the map sooner than we may dare to know. Yesterday alone, the overwhelming sight of so many Syrians blocking our main roads to elect a new president should make us all think hard. Let there be a new president, yesterday before today.
(3). For once, let us ALL pause, let us stop to think of ourselves as LFers, or FPMers, or Hizbis, or Mustaqbal, Amal, let us start thinking even if temporarily, as Lebanese, pure and simple. Let us elect our new president who will in case have to be consensual, and let us start finding solutions instead of stacking them up and up. Our predicament is so bad that only our unity and common sense will save us. Should we as Lebanese continue to fight each other, yet continue to ignore the mounting presence of non-Lebanese on our soil, then the day may come sooner than we know, when the foreigner will show us the way out, out of our Lebanon. If your leaders don't want you to wake up, then sit and pause, think well, our direction is not good at all, either we will slam a solid wall, or fall off a cliff. All of you, please wake up, leave the parties for now and think of the only Lebanon we have, hopefully for sometime if only we can wake up.
Wolf Rear, no predictions except to inform the general public that you are none other than Bani Maarouf or Ibinbatraksfeir who can't kick an old habit. At least I am giving you a reason to exist if for anything else. OK, now ya Wolf Rear, call your other siblings, you know...Alfinik, Profile woul be2yine.
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I wish the Islamo fascist Hezbollah can think this way. But their mandate, given by the Islamic Republic of Iran, is different.
At the end all they want is power, money and impose their interpretation of Islam on all of us and to gain legitimacy and more power they have to (sort of fight) Israel.
They might turn tactical, (the way they did with the present cabinet), and go for someone like Jean Kahwaji or Jean Obeid but they will never relinquish their goal to subjugate all of us to their rule.
Machia, thanks for a good reply, truly, I can't add more to it. Cheers.
And oh Wolf Rear, get your thumbing machines busy, mitil ma sheyfin ma heyk?...
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1/3 system or end of confessionalism...
All they need is to block the institutions then another 7 ayar and thats it, we're good for the lebanese shia republic...
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Geagea's proposal is the only rational sane way to resolve the impasse. Both should engage the electoral process in Parliament. When neither can get to the 65 votes needed, then both should sit down, and agree, with Patriarch as mediator if necessary, to a Geagea/Aoun Consensus candidate to be presented to Parliament for vote.
The only sensible rational way to proceed under the present circumstances.
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@Ft
your right FT aoun was the only man bombing the Syrian occupation,however after they failed to keep their promise of making him the President.
What is funny now aoun is the first one defending the Syrian occupation and you still have the Legitimacy to bring that point up.
let us see now what idiot aoun can do now with the 2 million refugees in lebanon that will eat up lebanon.
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LOL and your gvt REFUSED to build camps so not to offense your bashar pimp...
so take your idiot excuse elsewhere and start assuming your BS ... that is how grown ups do kiddo.... show you are a man and assume.. but i doubt cowards ever assume anything...
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yes it is true like it or not... source? aoun's close collaborator at the time...
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Michel Aoun in a 1995 Interview about Assad's regime:
"Aoun:They are very well versed and specialized in the torture of people and in the disrespect of human rights. I consider Damascus to be the anti-Geneva; Geneva is the city of the international standards, Damascus is thus the anti-Geneva. There are about thirty or so ways to torture people: fingernails, fire, and so forth. There are people who were in prison who got out -- they were the lucky ones -- after strong political pressure was applied. They tell of these things and many times carry scars on their body."
http://www.danielpipes.org/6310/if-lebanon-fails-so-does-the-middle-east
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Another. Jedo is just misunderstood. Which might explain why he issues one way tickets then wants to give out first class returns then says HA is bad then good then Syria is the enemy then they are our friend then the charges pinned on Geagea were faulse then says they are legitimate. Wait I don't think he changed his mind on this one I must of read it from the m8 marketing department.
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Aoun: Hezbollah is a terrorist group
http://www.cggl.org/scripts/document.asp?id=46256
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i knew you were iletterate pussycat but here you prove it once more!
tex is proposing a change of the way to elect the lebanese president... but you in your blind hateful mind you won't see it so eager to just insult people who spit on M8, did not understand what tex is saying...
my advice : change your brain and learn to read you ll do urself a favor instead of making a fool out of yourself, pityful assad...
we perfectly know how the system works so go and lecture kids your age you may be impress them but i doubt even 5 year old would listen to you! LOL...
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Interesting you have an Assad as your avatar roro. Are you Syrian?
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Roro open your thesaurus and search for transparency, democracy and while your there searching go look for a brain.
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Terrorist you know roro would have replied to your post if he actually knew how to read or talk Arabic.