Saniora Urges for an Initiative to Stop Hizbullah from Slipping into Syria's Conflict

Not the falklands. They have east timor first. Their Dili cell started moving a while back.

Mowaten, a Hezbollah commander was killed in Syria, something that was confirmed by both Hezbollah's media department and the Syrian opposition. Other Hezbollah "martyrs" died in Syria. I did not believe Hezbollah was involved in Syria until the organization confirmed it themselves that some of their men died in Syria.

Furthermore, Ahmad Jibril himself a few months ago stated publicly that - after holding talks with Nasrallah and Assad - Hezbollah would be willing to send fighters to aide the regime.

Up until lately, most of those crying out that Hezbollah was involved in Syria was empty accusations. But now, we are seeing more and more evidence of Hezbollah' increased involvement in the crisis.

Mowaten, the same Hezbollah commander that an opposition group claimed to be dead was the one that was confirmed by Hezbollah....coincidence?

I am no M14 fan, but you have to be able to acknowledge the faults of some M8. If this was only one instance, then yes, maybe I would question it as much as you would. But more and more incidents are occuring that suggest Hezbollah's involvement in Syria. To deny it is simply selective analysis, only looking at faults of the M14 without questions while overanalyzing actions of the M8 in order to suit your desired conclusions.

Also mowaten, impartial diplomats inside Syria that were denying Hezbollah's involvement early in the crisis are now confirming that Hezbollah is more involved now in fighting inside Syria, although not on a large scale. Indeed they refer to Hezbollah's discreet and secret burials of bodies of Hezbollah fighters being travelled from Syria into Lebanon for discreet burials.

you certainly haven t seen the videos of normal citizens and syrian fighters who have nothing to do with salafis...

i won t spare you "if someone kills your family" because you are totally forgetting that civilians are geting killed despite international laws forbidding an army to shell civilian areas that you support!
stop pretending that all the fighters are just salafis from saudi arabia because you know it isn t true! if you bashar didn t let the situation rot , groups like that wouldn t have tried to take advantage of the chaos!
and good thing you are defending a regime that harmed your country as if you want them to come back and go on coz you seem to approve this regime meaning you praise dictatorships (no wonder from a hezbi supporter...)

I think we are all overestimating the extent of the Salafi role in the Syrian crisis. There is no doubt they are present, but they are not as widespread as some pro-regime individuals believe.

What makes me say that? Salafis do not believe in the nation-state, they only believe in the Islamic state, and thus the only flag they will hold up is the "Black Standard" (google this), or the black Islamic flag. They will not hold any other flag. So if you see opposition members holding up this Free Syrian Army flag, they are not Salafis, although they could still be other types of Islamists.

for this incident how many peaceful protests took place ? think a bit

just look at the videos... and hear the testimonies

Lol

And from what we've seen so far, most opposition groups (but not all) are holding up this FSA flag, indicating they are not Salafi.

I hate to generalize, and maybe Asir, if he truly means that, is prioritizing pragmatism over ideology. But the difference between Asir and Salafis in Syria is that in Lebanon, Asir does not have the opportunity to change the Lebanese "regime", as is the case in Syria.

In Syria, opposition groups view themselves as having the power and ability to change the regime. And thus if a Syrian Salafi opposition group is calling for an Islamic state, it doesn't mean that Lebanese Salafis are as well even though they believe in it. At least that's my opinion. The main difference between Salafis in Lebanon and in Syria is that Syria is in a midst of a struggle for political transition, in which all groups are aiming to change the dominant political power and system. Such is not the case in Lebanon.

Therefore, going back to your question, because Asir realizes that right now Lebanon is not in a struggle for a change in the political system, I doubt he is actually trying to carry out such an agenda for he knows it is impossible for that agenda to be realized.

It also depends on the Asir's, and by extension a Salafist, point of view of an Islamic state. Some Salafist believe that minorities can exist under an Islamic state. So when Asir says he is willing to co-exist with other sects, it doesn't mean he does not want an Islamic state. Of course, we can never know for sure what his true intentions are. So far very little is known about him.

Um, Salafis are present across all of the Arab world. You can't deny that. Please go read more about them before you make such false statements.

As for Christians, you have some on both sides. THere are some that are against the regime for its past oppression, and others that side with the regime only because they are not with the revolution, for they seek stability and fear a scenario similar to Christian Iraqis after the fall of Saddam.

That is the problem FT. Staying neutral and leaving your brothers in the area, undependant of religion, dying for a something is wrong. This could have been a golden opportunity to unite once and for all for something that most people with brains agree upon----) the fight for democracy and freedom.

FT, inflation? secularism? Economic development? Unemployment? Wages? Monetary/fiscal policy? That sounds boring! Let's spend time talking about butchering Assad and filthy Shi3as and murderous Wahabbis!

Unfortunately, that is the mentality of most people in Lebanon, vary narrow political analysis.

For so long I've been arguing that secularism and real discussions about improving socioeconomic conditions is the cure to our remedies, but most people have disliked my comments without giving it much of a thought. They rather discuss the threat of Hezbollah's weapons/corruption in M14/Iran-Saudi-Syria influence etc., because that is really all their minds can handle.

Any discussion that goes deeper than those simplistic arguments is simply incompatible with the narrow-minded views of most Lebanese party followers.

Gcb1. Do you want me to read this article for you? The article is mainly about a certain conflict, that Sanyoura "does not want" Hezbollah to be dragged into ( one could question his intentions though). The article itself, is not about socioeconomic conditions, secularism, inflation.
Talking about inflation...it describes well the condition of your comments.