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Geagea will not dissolve parliament because that would mean the old electoral rules. Yet he and March 14 will not engage parliament by attending. March 14 needs to engage and get new electoral rules for the 2013 elections.

What Geagea and Hariri are up to is the destabilization of Lebanon for their own ends and to please their benefactors Qatar and Saudi Arabia the two of which are carrying out a fatwah against Shiite, other Sunni sects and of course Hezbollah.

At a time when Lebanon needs stability first and foremost Geagea and Hariri are using March 14 and hatred of Hezbollah to fracture the economic, political and social structure of Lebanon. The winds of change are sweeping MENA and Geagea and Hariri are throwing Lebanon's fate to the wind.

FT isn't possible that Aoun brought the syrians 1990 bombings/invasion of christian areas by his miscalculations knowing that the international community was not supporting him, even if he had canons like 'forks and knives':))
And isn't possible that Geagea saw what was coming and knowing that there is no way he could counter it because of his military capabilities, did not try to stop them and saved us extra dead and distruction??

By the way my logo is still missing some blue... Soon

Do u have proof FT that Geagea helped the syrians against Aoun?
Usually you claim that u have facts for everything you say, can u show us some here?

whether you like Geagea or not, what he is saying makes sense, and I noticed non of m8 guys has posted a comment to debunk what he is saying.
let us let the past remain in the past as all Lebanese leaders have done bad things and concentrate on the present and how to solve the problem of the traitors amongst us, and those supporting them for their current personal gains.
m14 is on the right track.

lebanon will remain sick as long as the christians are divided...one part is giving cover to farsis and the other part giving cover to the wahabies

FT, being a leader is making sure you protect your people as well, and knowing very well what your army's capabilities are, you do not start a devastating war on your country.
My reference to the international community is strictly for helping our army not bending to them!

Who are you, Are Ghosts, don't you have actual names?
Shame on all those who do not have the courage or the self confidence or respect to put their names when making any comments. Personally I do not respect or take seriously any comment that is posted under a fake and stupid names like Flame thrower, Geha, lebfrcan. If you have any thing to say, say it loudly and say who you are.
Elias Bejjani

FT i keep reminding you to keep civil with your comments and not attack the other but so far not successful.
Who started the war wanting to eliminate the LF ??? Who???
Who left like a cat when the first bombs started falling and left his christian generals get slaughtered????
I thought you said the lebanese army was superior to the syrian army at that time no??? Why didn't Aoun win???

Here is your Samir Geagea:

~1990 - Geagea's Lebanese Forces militia backed the Syrian army attacks on the Lebanese Presidential Palace and the Defense Ministry with artillery support.

~Geagea's Lebanese Forces militia killed prominent Christian leader Dany Chamoun

~1978, Samir Geagea led an attack against Tony Frangieh

~In September 1982, the Lebanese Forces militia, of which Geagea was a rising member, participated in massacres against Palestinian refugees in camps in Beirut.

~Around 1986-1987, Geagea's militia buried nuclear and chemical wastes on Lebanese territories in exchange for millions of dollars:

~In the year 1994, four years after the end of the Lebanese War, Geagea was arrested for being behind four political assassinations ..

~Samir Geagea denied all charges, but was found guilty and got sentenced to four death sentences.

Samir Geagea is a psychopath ...

....give the other people at least half as much??? To double up all the existing problems, NO THANKS. Now, tell us about your " M14 is blocking" episode no. 149. Give them at least half as much al, walla ennak a3ma ya zalami.

And how can I trust a man who said he would never leave his country, but left his wife and daughter to take the first plane to France while his pcokets were filled with Christian money that was supposed to fund the military and resistance of the syrian army? How can we? Matter of the fact is, we need a new political arsenal in Lebanon. All these politicians must go and new ones into the scene. They screwed us Lebanese over and will keep doing it over and over again with their mistakes and lies. It is all just a game to them. But at the end of the day, people are still being assissinated and killed and money and fighters still being sent to Syria. This has to stop. We should not interfere with Syrian issues, we should not interfere Iranian issues, we should not interfere with American Issues, and we should not interfere with Israeli/Palestinian issues.

We should work together as one Lebanese entity, as brothers of different religions and beliefs for a united Lebanon. I hate no one of Lebanese ancestry as we are all brother. But what I hate is this division among these corrupt political parties. Arms should not exist bemong the armies jurisdiction, no matter what religion or party you belong too. No political party actively working in the parliament or cabinet should have affiliation directly with any foreign country it should be done through parliament and in public eyes, not behind locked doors(This is called Treason in any civilizes country). We must unite behind ONLY and I repeat ONLY the Lebanese flag to save this country

FT keep insulting people, people will judge you as you are.
You were not the only one living there and getting bombed at, I had my share of changing bombed homes.
For your info, I was still with Aoun even after the syrians came in and I was against Geagea until I saw the positions he took after he came out of prison.
So, I am fair and not stuck like a sheep behind a "clawn".

why is that that FPMers always resort to what geagea did in the past to justify that he is not fit for politics? when others resort to the past about aoun they tell us to forget that because he has changed and is "pragmatic"! LOL

so why don t they apply to geagea what they impose for aoun?

LOL see how biased and idiots some can be.....

March 14, my friends and compatriots, Dr. Arreet 7akeh should be our president (or brezident, as some of those who know you say, so they say!!!) because he has now given our greatest president the world has ever known, may God bless him and extend his term indefinitely, valuable advice that only Dr. Arreet 7akeh can come up with! So repeat after me, warriors: We want Dr. Arreet 7akeh for president and we want him after our current president's indefinite term expires. You go, babes!

FT something we don't seem to share is: I respect other opinions...
I have nothing to proove to you re:your lame comment "see the light"... keep judging people without knowing them and based on nothing.
Finally, when I ask you to proove something, it is not to "change history" or mislead my readers, it is simply because I am not aware of what you stated and I lived in Lebanon, so for the last time either proove me wrong, and I will gladly thank you for the information you provide, or stop answering without no additional info.

Am I the only one that believes the Lebanese people suffer from other basic issues (like electricity, water, unemployment, massive debt) than what those politicians bicker about? Can some of you actually point to an improvement in your life and basic necessities and attribute that improvement to those politicians? If not, then why do we follow them?

Down with the sectarian system.

For so long we have been arguing about the same things, which are Hezb's weapons, stories about the 20 year old civil war and who was right and wrong, the so-called threat of wahabbis, the so-called conspiracy of Israeli/Iranian/Saudi domination, and so on.

But think about it for a second, are these the issues that affect your daily life? Don't you think that if our government actually worked to improve our socioeconomic conditions, then all these issues above would disappear?

I am not saying that we should ignore Hezb's weapons, or ignore the potential threat posed by Israel or any other foreign country, but isn't it obvious that, with a third of the population living in poverty, with unreliable infrastructure that lead to traffic jams, with unreliable food safety regulations, etc., isn't it obvious that we have more important issues? So why are we not voting for politicians that can actually address those issues?

Allow me to reply FT because I thing you were refering to my post.
You're saying above that hezballah will disarm when Shabaa is liberated: Do you frankly believe what you are saying??? Are you for real???
I went to the south with shia friends after the liberation and you see signs pointing to AL KUDS and when they will liberate it.
Even Nasrallah doesn't talk about returning his arms after only shabaa is liberated "because Israel will always be a danger".
And you're talking about "lebanization" of HIZB??? What about the drone and all info sent to IRAN and nothing to our president or government???
Enough brainwashing FT, enough. Be fair.

Take a look at all your posts on this web, and it is the same debates over and over again. How do we expect the country to progress when our minds are fixated on the past? It is time we abandon the mainstream political parties, form new ones that represent liberal values, improve socioeconomic conditions that would pull people away from religious fundamentalism and blind political allegiance.

@ gcb1
"Can some of you actually point to an improvement in your life and basic necessities and attribute that improvement to those politicians? If not, then why do we follow them?" la2an sha3eb ghanam...
shouf w talla3 kiff bidef3o 3an zou3ame2oun lal 3ama! ra2eb kiff bi "mas7o"! sar samir GeaGea Mar Chrabel w Michel Aoun Mar maroun!
3enna bel balad a "social problem"! ma fi aya na2ed zetti, wala 7ata na2ed lal zou3ama. 3atoul l 7a2 3al teltyin! Kezeb w Propangada!
3anjad ta3a 2ri kel l te3li2at! hek 2aghlabiyet l sha3eb : "ignorant"!

They might be half of Aouns block but they definatly have 50 percent of the christian street. Why do you think Aoun doesn't want small constituancies? Last I checked Aoun got 43 percent of the christian vote. The largest single bloc sure. But considering his other christian ally is Franjieh who is no more than 5-6 percent of the christian vote, the other 50-51 percent were M14 christians.

Ts be honest. The christians called the Syrians because they were losing. And total defeat though not easy to come by was imminent. They didn't think the syrians would come in and play hopscotch jumping between sides. And the demanding total obediance to their will. Then at least some Christians rose up to fight them. Aoun was not the only one to declare a war against the Syrians the LF fought them too. And did a much better job than Aoun if you ask me. Think Ashrafiyeh. Zahle.

WHy did Geagea sell out to Syria? Because HE and a large section of the christians wanted peace? Most of M8 supported taef. So they sold their country out too?the taef stipulated that the syrians should have left a looong time ago. Again you blame Geagea for not knowing syria was a backstabing manipulative country who wanted to own lebanon.

AnD last but not least. We had 6 years with you up in our face.

@lebfrcan

I think right now, with our sectarian political system that encourages corruption and unaccountability, it is very hard to get something done that would benefit all individuals in Lebanon (and not just one or a few sects). First we must have a liberal secular movement that separates religion from politics and appoints ministers based on merit rather than sect. Only then can parties be defined by ideologies and work for all of the people, rather than being divided amongst ourselves.