Cabinet on Mother’s Day to Discuss her Right to Grant Citizenship to Children

the first version of the draft is utter nonsense! A Lebanese man married to a Palestinian woman can pass citizenship to his kids.. How can a sane person make the statement “I don’t understand how the man has the right to pass the citizenship to his kids, while the woman is deprived from this right,” and then propose the first version without realizing the inconsistency?!?!

first off all good news, so sad to hear that there is still discrimination to women who are married to palastianss...... besides men who are married with palastian women pass the citizenship through to their childeren. i can imagine how desperate that is for the women, knowing that there are a lot of lebenese women are married to palastian men...

This is a belated step which should have been tackled even after we took independence. All children are a gift of God and should not under any pretence be disadvantaged or treated unfairly for something they didn't really initiate. I would even extend the law to encompass children of foreign parent who were born here to be granted the nationality. We pride ourselves in being a religious nation but our hearts are full of hatred and unfairness. We pretend to be religious yet our actions are further from it. Enough of discrimination in the name of God. And after all, the Lebanese nationality of not worth the ink on it unlike the good times when a lebanese passport gets you everywhere in a whisk. We always act too late causing harm to children and families like Lavrov who told assad that he made many mistakes and acted too late to quell the riots in his country.

To answer the "why" question: So that the citizenship does not simply a right of marriage, and marriage then becomes simply a tactic for citizenship like in "any normal civilized country". Despite how the lebanese themselves view their citizenship, it is still widely popular amongst our neighbors, and this will certainly change everything in our demographics. We will become a country that distribute citizenship like Canada etc...., the difference here is that those "normal civilized countries" need and want immigrants, we simply don't. We don't have the space or the resources to accommodate. That being said, the birth citizenship is a right and should be respected, so I really hope that this goes through.

It´s ok to grant christians citizenship. armenian christians, iraqi, etc etc.
It´s ok to grant citizenship to Shia from the seven villages.

But when it comes to Lebanese women,married to "palestinians" it is noooot ok.
I can assure you, that the palestinian with Lebanese moms, are more well integrated to the Lebanese society than the Armenians and the "new Shias".
But this partly western imposed racism never ends...
..and to all you Kataeb and owet people that thinks they are well educated-----)these suggestions show you are not. You dont know anything about "hadara" and human rights. There is no difference between you and "ashraf el nas mokawame".

What a sick and repulsive statement you made.

People, no one is explaining this correctly.

Lebanese Mothers who are Married to a Man who is from country "x", and that country Does Not Grant Children with Mothers of that Country Citizenship, Lebanon Should Not Grant this Couple the Lebanese Citizenship. It is the law of reciprocity.

To make things Clearer. Only Arab Countries that does not grant mothers to transfer their citizenship.

Lebanon Should Grant Mothers with Foreign Husbands the Lebanese Citizenship IF & ONLY IF their Fathers are From Countries that Does the Same

This must be approved. It is so stupid for it not to be. Baroud started it and I hope it is finished today. And to all you guys this is not political. It is a clear right to citizenship.

Lebanon will NEVER be a civilized country. It's the year 2012 and women still can't grant citizenship to their sons ! It's the year 2012 and we still refer to black people as "3abeed" (Slaves). It's the year 2012 and we still pay our maids a hundred dollar a month salary for her 12 hours a day work, and still beat her if she disobeys !

I love my country, but having left it to go to the REAL world to get a REAL educatin, I realized that there's no way in hell I'm going to raise my kids in that country.

@ Ulpianus
The Armenians migrated to Lebanon during WWI before Lebanon’s independence and before it enacted Citizenship Laws. They were also counted in the 1942 census as Lebanese living on the Lebanese soil. On Iraki Christians – who told you they became citizens...If you saw christian Irakis in Lebanon on work Visas that doesn’t mean they became citizens.
The Shiaa from the Seven villages - i am not familiar with their case - can't answer that.
For Palestinians: Constitution states Palestinians should not be Nationalized in any way or form...This serves Palestinian & Lebanese interest (Some Palestinian don’t’ want Lebanese citizenship)...Clear!!!
But it would be great if they can be given a foreign citizenship status/UN passport or whatever, thus be able to grant them Work-Visas to legally work in Lebanon - awaiting resolution of Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

To TheFool - Good point - Thumbs up!

If you want Lebnanese children, then marry a Lebanese man. Period

all this for a lebanese passport?? wshou 7a yotla3 menno!!

@ Ulpianus
On the subject of Lebanese women that married Palestinian - this is a clear case of Naturalization - as some Palestinian men would use this loophole to grant citizenship to their palestinian children. A Sunni Palestinian already married to a Palestinian and having 4 kids from his Palestinian wife, would marry a Lebanese woman as a second wife, get Lebanese citizenship to his 4 Palestinian kids, and then divorce his Lebanese Women...of course the Lebanese women will be compensated for her complicity...- Multiply that by the number of Palestinian men married with children in Lebanon and you can easly see how this becomes a Naturalization scape goat.

When you get this passport, you will be treated like a king. lol.

@ Ulpianus
If some Irakis were according to Lebanese citizenship law entitled to Lebanese citizenship then why not - I know some Egyptians & Morroccans who got Lebanese citizenship too.

@ Ulpianus
Kurds having citizenship is one thing - being represented in parliament is another - from your question i understand that they are already lebanese, they just don't have a MP in parliament -well for them to have a seat in parliament, there need to be at least 50,000 concentrated in one election district for them to claim a seat in parliament - i guess they haven't acheived that.

@ Ulpianos
What scenarios - The Law as stated above did not mention anything about "Non Biological Children" - No restrictions or conditions are mentioned - so there you go, the loophole is there.
It is only you who is imagining that there is such a restriction, and that this scenario won't happen

Ulpianus
Are you to say that Adopted Children are not Her children - What a Bad thing to say - you will have scores of mothers & lawyers after you for saying such an awful thing about adopted children and their mothers. Again the law doesn't clarify if Her children means biological or adopted.
You want to add that restrictions- but again i repeat the law presented doesn't have it - and it is up for grabs.

To SamerTrobolse
First of all i do beleive in love
Second of all, you should see how some people go into all sorts of schemes to get their hands on a Passport here in the States - this scenario is the easiest, especially since there is no scrutiny or follow-up by the Lebanese state in those matters.
As for why would they go into so much trouble to get their hands on a Lebanese passport, don't ask me, i was told stories how during Chamoun presidency, and later during Hraoui, when they opened Lebanese citizenship, Palestinians paid tens of thousands of USD in bribery to get their hands on it...so don't ask me, as these people why they bothered so much.
I guess for an educated Palestinian with a family, who wishes to remain close to his family in Lebanon, and aspires to get a job in a Lebanese bank, it would be worthwhile to do so.

To SamerTrobolse
I do beleive in love :)
As to why would they go into so much trouble to get their hands on a Lebanese passport? First of all this scenario is fairly easy especially since there are no scrutiny/follow up by Lebanese state. Second: don't ask me,
Ask the palestinians who paid tens of thousands of dollars in bribery during Chamoun presidency, and later during Hraoui, Naturalization campaign.
I guess for an educated Palestinian with a family, who wishes to remain close to his family in Lebanon, and aspires to get a decent job in a Lebanese bank to improve his family condition, it is worth a whole lot.

So much sectarianism. Why can't we all be Lebanese, despite our religious beliefs?

This is so sexist / racist. Why should the man being a Palestinian have the Lebanese woman's rights taken away to naturalize her children! Simply outrageous and irresponsible but did not expect anything less from his hizbolaat government...

انا فلسطيني ومن حقي جنسية والدتي اللبنانيه.
كفى حرمان الشعب الفلسطيني بذريعة منع التوطين.
نعم للمساواة لا للعنصريه والدكتاتوريه لبنان بلد الديمقراطية.

So its all about religion , as long as you are Christian then you are welcome to be granted the Lebanese citizenship.If the Palestinian refugees in Lebanon were all Christian,they would have been granted the Lebanese citizenship long time ago .

كيف يعني انو امي لبنانية ولكن والدي جنسيته سورية وانا خلئت هون بلبنان ومافيني اتجنس ومتزوج وحدة لبنانية وكل هايدا لشي ومابيطلعلي جنسية والله حرام يلي عم تعملو فينا.واضعف الايمان اذا ماكانت رح تطلعلي بدي أعرف مستقبل ولادي لوبن رح يوديني ويوديهن.نحنا فعلا ببلد علماني وبلد متطور والعالم كلو بيشهد عليه.ولكن ومع كل هالشي الانسان مافي ئلو حئوئ بهالبلد.فعلا انها متاهة يستحيل فك رموزها.(عاش لبنان أولا)