Cabinet Formation Talks ongoing as Hariri Contacts Geagea, Sami Gemayel

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Intensive consultations to form a new cabinet continued on Tuesday among the various political parties as former Prime Minister Saad Hariri held phone talks with his Christian allies.

Hariri telephoned Lebanese Forces chief Samir Geagea and Phalange Party Central Committee Coordinator MP Sami Gemayel and discussed with them the latest developments in the formation process, after the two Christian leaders voiced concerns on Monday.

Hariri and Geagea stressed the "unity" of the March 14 forces' stances, according to various media outlets.

Later on Tuesday, Speaker Nabih Berri held talks with caretaker Interior Minister Marwan Charbel on the issue of the new cabinet.

The minister hoped after the meeting that this “process is moving forward on the right path.”

“I sensed that matters are going ahead in a good and normal manner,” he added.

“No obstacles have been encountered so far,” continued Charbel.

He hoped that the resolution of the government deadlock will rid Lebanon of its current and potential security problems.

The cabinet formation process was put on the front burner after Berri proposed a revised 8-8-8 government formula and President Michel Suleiman said he would form a so-called neutral cabinet if the political rivals don't agree on an all-embracing government within ten days.

Amid the LF's rejection of Hizbullah's participation in the cabinet, the March 14 camp has reportedly accepted the 8-8-8 formula in principle, but it is awaiting answers pertaining to the ministerial policy statement and the rotation of portfolios among political parties.

The 8-8-8 formula divides ministers equally between the centrists and March 14 and 8 alliances, in which each get eight ministers with “decisive ministers” for the March 14 and 8 coalitions.

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Thumb geha 14 January 2014, 15:05

hizbushaitan has received its orders to back down totally, and they are starting to do that trying to save face :)

anyway, m8 has lost big time :)

we will regain our country soon :)

Missing imperatrice 14 January 2014, 15:18

the funniest thing about it is that the president is negotiating with M8 the name/portfolio of his chief chiite minister, what a laugh really
viva the objectivity
the saddest thing about it, is that they still prefer to run instead of facing their demons

Missing imperatrice 14 January 2014, 15:23

how do u gain back a country when ur essentially being coerced into a lose-lose deal out of fear of being outnumbered and killed
please do tell, id like some hope

Thumb geha 14 January 2014, 16:53

you win back a country by regaining a sort of independence.
I know it is a sort of as Lebanon has never been allowed to be free.

slowly hizbushaitan will stop terrorizing the Lebanese people, and as happened previously with other communities (like the Christians), the shia will start realizing again that an armed militia is not the answer, rather it is the state.

before disbanding the LF all the Christian community was with the LF, and afterwards, they rejected militias to the benefit of the state. the LF understood it and rejected reconstructing a militia.

Thumb beiruti 14 January 2014, 15:34

Geagea has held out on principle. The principle being that Hezbollah cannot be accepted into a government, the policies and decrees of which it flaunts at will whenever the independent interests of Hezbollah as dictated by Iran require. To date, it has been understood that Hezbollah stands against the nation and Hezbollah's actions in the Syrian War have caused retaliation against Hezbollah in Lebanon. If the rest of the Lebanese accept Hezbollah and its war policy, then all of Lebanon and all of her people become subject to retaliation coming out of Syria for the actions of Hezbollah taken in support of the regime.

Thumb IndependentThinker 14 January 2014, 16:37

Exactly. Nothing good has come out of Hezbollah. They are the biggest cancer and problem Lebanon has today. Let's not be ashamed to say it.

Thumb ice-man 14 January 2014, 17:49

I totally agree with your words.

Thumb primesuspect 14 January 2014, 15:35

u have no memory whatsoever. u killed our politicians 1 by 1. they regrouped in order 2 weigh against Iranian/Syrian/HA/FPM/+ others terrorism. those who call themselves M8 r the cancer, the not so silent killers. in the end, they r izrael's allies which has been proven as the US picked Iran 2 protect Izrael. The Syrian Baath has been very good at it since the Assads seized power.

Thumb geha 14 January 2014, 16:56

the roar:

Ms are nothing but BS, and that is to answer your question.

we have two sides here that are not better from each other, except for the fact that one side has a terrorist militia, and they are terrorizing the Lebanese each day.

when all are equal, Lebanon can strive even if all our politicians are crooks and stupid.

we want to live, work, have fun, and not worry about our kids playing in the streets. that is all.

other than that, I have no respect for any politician.

Thumb primesuspect 14 January 2014, 18:03

well dear loser, our m14 got rid of syria's army in lebanon. it's the blood of our m14 figures who did this. not aoun, not nusrallah, not berry, not franjieh, nobody from ur M8 friends who r about 2 disband because they r meaningless and worthless!

Missing imagine_1979 14 January 2014, 18:43

There was a time when a general was saying that syrian regime was stealling lebanese money (go back to samizdat, a journal that we used to distribute with our fellows tayyar..) no by magic nothing to blame the syrian regime....
Then there are other people that use to del with syrians, had bunch of them assassinated during the past 8 years but still defending lebanon souvereignty against syrian egemony...
U see my point?...

Thumb primesuspect 14 January 2014, 21:36

Roardiota,

Lebanon has been trying very hard to steer away from Syria, since it's very first day in 1943, but people kept getting crushed by the Syrians and Israelis. All these people who stood up in the media and streets got murdered. But on feb 14 2005 syria killed the one person who fixed Lebanon. 1/3rd of Lebanon was in beirut's street 1 month later. Sure, the assassins r paying people including ur friends here on naharnet 2 tarnish the image of mr rafeek Hariri the martyr of Lebanon but we all know the truth. U r agents of Syria, always were, always will be. The next step 2 shift away from Syria's sphere of influence is 2 grant the 400.000 Palestinians the citizenship. And as a Christian fear nothing for my representation in politics, but the Palestinians will help break the Zionist/Syrian/persian imperialist plans 4 the country. They will be a million times more patriotic than the Shiites who serve a geographically distant power.

Thumb primesuspect 14 January 2014, 23:05

M11er,

well, the kids who were born on lebanese soil should be granted the citizenship. of course, just like the kids born in america get theirs too [and their mothers tambien 18 years later]. And believe me, nobody gives birth in lebanon by choice. the palestinians should get it but the state of lebanon should get financially compensated by the US/izrael/etc... many palestinians i have met are wealthy, and if they buy properties, it'll help the entire economy. and if they r allowed 2 become doctors and educated it will benefit every1. not only their communities. it's time 2 move on. izrael will never be defeated by lebanon, nor by syria or iran [their new allies] even if KSA gave the LAF 500 billion dollars. if we get stability by absorbing the Pals, Syria will lose, Israel will lose, Iran will lose, and Hizballa will no longer have to fight izrael 2 send the palestinians back there [a neverending story].

Thumb primesuspect 14 January 2014, 23:06

And I trust our sunni muslim lebanese brothers more than the shias because KSA doesn't have a master plan 2 dominate us unlike iran. KSA is not ambitious and is no threat 2 us. there is much more 2 say about it...

Thumb primesuspect 14 January 2014, 23:54

M11er,

I would love to send them as u suggests, but let's get real. it's not going to happen ever. and if they r 2 remain in the te3teer inside camps instead of purchasing appartements like any normal humain being, troubles will never end either. izrahell is not interested in peace with lebanon, neither is hizballa. poverty is the source of all troubles. keeping people poor voluntarily is not only evil and contradictory 2 our christian values but it'll keep hitting lebanon back. the time 2 become wise and smart has come, they should be granted the citizenship.

Thumb primesuspect 14 January 2014, 23:57

about ur religious [im]balance, well it'll help the sunni dominate the islamic representacion as it was in 1943. us christians have the diaspora 2 rely on, 80% of expats r christians. granting them the citizenship will boost the economy and will motivate them 2 climb the social ladder. radicalism will fade away too. look @ gaza in comparison 2 the west bank, they r poor and unstable because they live in a huge prison. lebanon is like that prison for all of us with a dozen gazas inside. obviously, kicking them out of the county is also not an opcion, it's not human. lebanese r smart enough 2 create tools/laws in order 2 find the necessary resources in order 2 educate them. that's how the country would become a better place. as long as they remain uneducated, they remain a threat.... this also applies 2 the shias voting 4 hizballa. they r uneducated.

Thumb primesuspect 15 January 2014, 00:17

M11er,

U r dreaming, honestly u r!

keeping such as stance will keep everything as it is for another 50 years if not more. thanks 4 spoiling our kids and grandkids' lives and in the mean time their numbers is growing....

well, i don't care i don't live in lebanon. but if u want 2 keep tensions and problems and bad news a daily habit, u've got the solution.

there's nothing wrong in admitting defeat 2 izrahell. the civilized world is protecting them. don't count on iran 2 modify this. we need 2 put our ego aside, it's useless and it clouds the judgement.

Thumb beiruti 14 January 2014, 15:36

The principled stand of Geagea and to a certain extent of Sami Gemayel stands at odds with the transactional nature of Lebanese politics. To remain viable as a political class, it is necessary to milk the government and in order to milk the government, there must first be a government.
The Lebanese political class is a sucking wound on the body of Lebanon. They serve no one but themselves and their lackies. They steal the wealth of Lebanon. When Syria occupied her, they were required to share the stolen wealth of the nation with the Syrian overlords. Now, Hezbollah simply takes everything and dares anyone else to dip into their pile.
Hezbollah elites are now billionaires with stolen wealth. I am sure that Saad is imploring Geagea to join, not to end the thievery, but to "spread the wealth" so that all may survive.

Thumb ice-man 14 January 2014, 18:39

leb_roar: Do you have a life? a hobby? a family? a home? why are you here 24/7 like seven eleven? No ambition, no initiative to better yourself? Perhaps, some evening classes? Please, roar, I am concerned about you.

Thumb ice-man 14 January 2014, 18:48

leb_roar: When will you visit Lebanon? Perhaps, we can have coffee.

Thumb ice-man 14 January 2014, 18:48

leb_roar: do you mind if I refer to you as Seven Eleven from now on?

Thumb ice-man 14 January 2014, 18:54

cool, come visit me in California. I will be there beginning of March. Do you have a passport or you are still refugee status?

Thumb ice-man 14 January 2014, 19:06

cool, you are as generous as KSA.

Thumb ice-man 15 January 2014, 04:50

It's so cruel to make homeless and unemployed people pay taxes.

Thumb shab 14 January 2014, 23:05

Funny it should come from you. The other day you labeled me M14 althoug I never comment on either M's.

Thumb shab 14 January 2014, 23:05

to the roar

Thumb shab 14 January 2014, 23:05

Funny it should come from you. The other day you labeled me M14 althoug I never comment on either M's.

Thumb joker37 15 January 2014, 01:47

Ice-man please go back to posting under your other alias "roaring flame thrower" it was hilarious

Thumb proudm14. 15 January 2014, 03:56

keeping the palestinian refugees in the same state that they are in now is an untenable position, and it has been a constant headache on the political and security level because the lebanese government does not want to deal with this problem. now the camps are terrorist enclaves which the LAF does not even have the permission to deal with. allowing the palestinians at least to work and live in non-ghetto's will do 100x for our security better than what we have now: zones of lawlessness ie: quasi-states.

Thumb primesuspect 15 January 2014, 04:45

u wish i were, but i'm not. jajajaja gilipolla. keep ur virgins 2 urself, talking about satanism, the only 1 close 2 satan is the one living underground w/ demons. u know, nusrallah the terrorist.

Thumb ice-man 15 January 2014, 06:54

Do you have any farsi roots coz your name sure sounds like it.

Thumb ice-man 15 January 2014, 07:28

Yes, I am R-FT. How about you, what other screen names do you use?

Thumb ice-man 15 January 2014, 08:08

I don't recall ever talking to you before. What screen name were you using? Your charisma, candor, leadership, boldness and dynamic ability are something to be commended.