Report: Hizbullah Performs Maneuvers in Dahieh to Confront Possible Takfiri Attack

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@mowaten: I kindly ask you to refrain from so blatantly insulting your fellow posters even though they are guests. Slowly but surely, my immense respect for you is dwindling down!

when it's a fact it's not an insult. just like calling you a liar is not an insult, it's stating the obvious :)

@Jaafar: I have repeatedly asked you to never ever use any of my gems without my specific prior consent!!! Have some decency!

shia account for max 30% so do sunnis (they are around 50K to 60K more than shia) and that is according the official census.

Lol geha. Shia are the single largest sect in Lebanon. But maybe you still don't count 1 Shia as 1 vote.

not according to the official records :)
stop believing what you are fed: enquire and ask and you will get your answers, the correct ones :)

Unfortunately for you, as demonstrated by the 2009 polls, the Shia stand united (over 90% favor the Amal-heZb group)

And I only answer with "Shia" because you seem to think it's solely the Shias responsibility. Fool.

you make no sense in your comments.
again, according to the most current official records sunnis outnumber shias by 50K to 60K.

if all shia vote together or not is not related to what you said: Shia are the single largest sect in Lebanon.

shia are not the largest secte.

actually we need to start thinking properly, i.e. all sects are minorities in Lebanon.

Sorry geha. That 2009 reference was for petal. See his comment above

there havent been official censuses for several decades, they've been banned. yet geha claims to have the official figures... isnt that cute? :)

You are wrong petal, a good Sunni and Shia should not bow down to Saudi hegemony, work together along with the other sects, and remove the takfiri threat.

I really hope you are not sectarian, you sound like a real nice guy.

Ice man. Does that mean you disagree with anything I've said thus far?

Actually No, you make perfect sense.

I didn't say kill, I said 'held accountable', that could include banning Hizb as a party, imprisoning the leadership etc. Hibz's answer to any criticism or opposition is always to kill.

"Lebanese residents of Western Syria" !!!!!!!!!!! Rubbish! It's still a foreign country and Hizb has no right to be there. Any Lebanese living in Syria should either remain neutral or go home.

I'm sorry if your mind isn't quick enough to follow, or is it that you needed more time to consult the Hizb manual? Nonetheless your response is so full of baloney it is difficult to take you seriously. I don't want to hear about Hizb so called 'heroics' when they have brought nothing but destruction, crime and corruption to Lebanon.

I would have agreed with you had it truly been regime vs democracy. But it's not. Foreign fighters exist on both sides (Lebanese too on both sides) and again it's a proxy war with two fighting sides. Both sides are being backed by bigger players. There's no denying this. Saudi-Zionist alliance vs Iran. Can you deny this at this point in the conflict?

And here you go. You no longer have anything tangible to argue so you name call and pretend to give yourself an educated exit from the conversation. Debate is healthy. Anyway, goodnight.

No terrorist organisation should be permitted to be part of ANY election process, particularly one that is fully armed by a foreign entity and also one of the largest drug traffickers in the ME.

As for KSA's involvement - As Muslims they have a duty to help other Muslims who are being slaughtered - Iran does NOT have the same justification.

What gives you the power to declare them a terrorist org?

petal: yes, lebanese residents of western syria, there are tens of thousands and they were being slaughtered, their villages shelled and their houses burnt. your saying it's not lebanese territory so let them die is very revealing of your bias. if you were truly a lebaense patriot you be concerned by their fate and be glad that HA helped them defend themselves.
i dont think any citizen in any other country would blame their countrymen for defending other countrymen, even if it is abroad.

also, about the technicalities:
-HA being invited by syrian authorities makes it perfectly legal for them to be there
-it was not only in western syria, but also in hermel on which rockets where being fired regularly during many months before HA's intervention.

Because when you VOTE you are AUTHORISING those elected to act on YOUR behalf HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!

According to you those people are 90% of the Shia population! I just hope the other 10% are smart enough to live away from Hizb controlled areas

So do you think every American that voted for bush should be killed?

Sorry, stop comparing the greatest democracy (despite its flaws) with a known terror organization. The great American people are not raised on hatred and deceit. They have a system that allows them corrective action if their leaders make mistakes. What corrective action can the Shia of Lebanon take against an armed group of terrorists. In My opinion, The shia of Lebanon are enjoying the unearned privileges afforded to them as a result of Hizb's existence.

But by petals logic, he should be able to kill every American that voted for bush the second time around (2004). You CANNOT kill someone because of the person he voted for. Hezbollah was a legitimate participant in the election. You might consider them a terror org but others might not. That's why there are polls. Not everyone in the world believes someone is a terrorist group just because the USA and Israel say so.

And FYI eagle dawn, did you know that the single largest voting bloc in the USA is comprised of the people that don't vote? Did you ever ask yourself why they don't? It's because they don't believe in the exact system that you speak so highly about.

Unlike Hizb I don't claim power that is not mine. However, common logic says:

Their actions declare them a terrorist organisation. Them targeting anyone that isn't of the Shia sect or is opposed to their tactics declares them as a terrorist organisation. Their pointing their guns at other Lebanese makes them a terrorist organisation. Their refusal to comply with Lebanese and International laws makes them a terrorist organisation, kidnappings, torture, illegal drugs trafficking, I could go on for hours, but you get the gist.

I await the day when i will read ONE meaningful post, ONE counter argument, ONE credible or mature info from you, -_Flamethrower_- , but alas!

really FT? US named them terrorists and we will change our minds with US? i dont think so, they are responsible for the attempt on boutros harb and most probably hariri: BLATANT TERRORISM whatever the USA might say

Cowards? Hahahaha I think you need to follow the conversation a little closer; your comment is completely out of context as we were not talking about Hizb leadership who have just deserted their people by moving out of Dahiyeh

So your "goodnight' was a little preemptive - bit like your occupation of May 7th

I also like the 9/11 example you give everytime you get cornered. Since youre such great champions of the American cause what about the US embassy, what about the US marine barracks, what about Harriri and all that followed, what about what about......

You're right Cedars2 - illogical dogma absorbed by illiterates

you didnt realize he was trying to be sarcastic?

no, sunnis from saida...

The same Salafis, that killed LAF soldiers along with Assir?

cedre all your fabricated videos wont help you, and there is no antisunnism in Hezbollah, there is many sunni members too. It is simply anti Zionist american and Takfiri. The ones you are supporting are takfiris not normal sunni muslim. All this hatred blinds you, you should insead ask yourself, what good does the takfiri for the Sunni population in Syria? They give people 10 lashes if they just smoke a cigarette. Nobody wants a salafi khalifah cedre.

so all these videos are fabricated ? Were they done in Hollywood or Qatar ?

You said it.

Mowaten: What's your take on HA using Somali fighters in Syria?

U.N. Says Somalis Helped Hezbollah Fighters
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/15/world/middleeast/15nations.html?_r=1&

lol

"More than 700 Islamic militants from Somalia traveled to Lebanon in July to fight alongside Hezbollah in its war against Israel, a United Nations report says."

first the report is dated 2006 and mentions the war against israel, not syria.
and second, i wonder how they came, to lebanon without anyone seeing them. FYI the airport was the first thing israelis bombed, so they couldnt have landed in lebanon. 700 somalis in arms crossing through land and nobody noticed them? funny :)

(A). Mowaten brother, I wish I could concur with you on this. Hezbollah does not have a few hundreds in Syria, but thousands, if my figures are right, Hezbollah has close to 5000 if not more soldiers. There was a time when Hezbollah participation did help the regime push forward in some areas, and in other areas be able to hold on to current positions, so please ya Mowaten, you are talking with a seasoned LF fighter, it takes into the thousands to make any such impact. Then according to our information, Hezbollah is literally drained, maybe not yet but will be soon, and pundits calculate it to start happening this year. To make matters worse, those who back Hezbollah are now in great financial difficulties,

(B). Mowaten. namely Iran and Syria, and the Lebanese who donate to Hezbollah are also now under economic strains, and more so with the cash from the diaspora, where HA is also facing lots of pressure from the US and the West. So bro, I understand, you will not want this to happen to HA, and I respect your sentiments, but it will if it doesn't backtrack soon. Right at this moment, Hezbollah is becoming more and more vulnerable, and God forbid a million times, if one spark brings about an Israeli war on it, or if the Sunni/Shiite conflict goes full blown in Lebanon, HA will suffer a lot, to the point where it won't hold its own but for a short time. No matter what HA may want to try, it still remains a militia.

Field experience you say what field the cemetry is that why they bury their dead at night and in secret this a war no one will win and everybody will lose, to the syrian people death is better than living under this regime and i guess time and sadly more lives will tell if they willget their freedom from tyranny.

Not true watan, majority of the Syrian people just wants to go back to their old lives, before this nightmarish unrest. Syria used to be a wonderful country, look at pictures before and after the war. Ask the Syrian people, they will say they wanna go back to what it once was, with Al Assad too. They do not care, they just want peace with no Al Qaeda involved in Syria. They trust their national army to bring security, not the takfiris.

well phoenix, you have your sources, i have mine, and they dont seem to concur here. and i think neither you or i have the possibility of going on the ground to count fighters one by one and review HA's accounts to see if they're in difficulty or not. but the coming year(s) will tell. if you were right it will inevitably show when HA cannot confront the takfiris or israelis anymore. otherwise, it will mean i was right.

Truck loads? I think you are talking about the salafis Mr. Watan salafiya, they are not doing so good, they are actually butchering each other now as we speak.

watan is day dreaming with his friends, high on capatagon and all. let him believe one billion HA fighters were killed, if that's what he want to believe. we dont care :)

"in both cases they would pretend that if hezbollah stands down/disarms/disbands, they would not attack."

When you do that your faith and trust is in the army, like every Lebanese citizen, so I wouldnt worry too much about that if I was you.Or should we all carry weapons and re create our own armies?

looooool mchi 3a wejj el moy w salleh 3al nabeh. w 3alleyeh esa ma bteghra2

Oh my, but mowaten you always said you were an atheist !!!! How come you use a religious proverb??????? My immense respect for you has almost vanished!

lol ice-man, you dont understand arabic do you? if you did you'd know how far off you are :)

You don't conduct terrorist acts and foreign wars and complain about repercussions... they sent an open invitations for attacks.

And these terms are not "their" terms. Those terms are demanded by the LEBANESE PEOPLE. GET THE HELL OUT OF SYRIA ! We don't want your wars, we don't want Hezbollah to drag us once again into war, we don't want HEZBOLLAH at all to hold weapons.

Now shove your terrorist love for Hezbollah somewhere deep inside of you and spend your energy on promoting something constructive and relevant for the future of Lebanon.

Hezbollah has no role to play in building our country. No plans, nothing ... stop supporting them !

So are these terrorists supposed to impose what March 14 demand? When you say Lebanese people, you mean March 14 who are led by a man with allegiance to the King of Saudi Arabia, a kingdom led by hypocrites and oppression.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh the irony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1)The first suicide bomb that went off in Dahiyeh came after Hezb announced its involvement in Syria.

2) Even if the "takfiri" threat existed before, it is sure much easier to recruit people to these terrorist organizations given what Hezb is doing in Syria.

3) Who gave the authority for Hezb to take it upon itself to go to Syria? Was there a vote? Was there a democratic mechanism that allowed it to go? If Hezb wants to be Lebanon's primary defense institution, and if we the Lebanese want a democracy, then shouldn't Hezb's actions be subject to a democratic vote? How can you justify Hezb taking arbitrary actions without consulting the Lebanese people?

The presence of radical Islamist groups in Lebanon does not give Hezb a blank cheque to go do whatever the heck it wants without consulting the Lebanese people.

gcb1 What is Hezbollah doing in Syria? They do not have a big presence overthere, it is a small group consisting of advisors to teach Pro Government Militias how to fight guerilla warfare.

Syria helped Lebanon during the 2006 war against Israel, they took in our refugees, and supported the resistance. Now Lebanon do the same for the Syrian refugees, and when the takfiri threat is over in Syria, then they will all return to their homeland.

"Syria helped Lebanon during the 2006 war against Israel, they took in our refugees, and supported the resistance. Now Lebanon do the same for the Syrian refugees, and when the takfiri threat is over in Syria, then they will all return to their homeland."

Their homeland in Iran..

Hizbollah brought so called takfiris to lebanon and they wont leave till hizbollah is finished off

I was talking about the Syrian refugees in Lebanon, to go back to their homeland, when the war is over. I know you are referring to the resistance now, which are all Lebanese Citizens. So drop the crap and get Saudi citizenship if you love them so much

So watan, you wish for the takfiris to take over Lebanon? Because if they (in your dreams) finished off Hezbollah as you said. Do you trust them to run Lebanon then? With their Caliphate goal. Unless you yourself are a takfiri, then you would hate that more than Hezbollah.

LOL.... they boasted not so long ago to have taken "measures"... but did not work ... so yes they are desperate as the "measures" taken were null...
or they were the ones who planted the bombs just to make believe they are victims and justify their massacres in syria...

i guess they should close dahye to everyone and live in their ghetto cut off from lebanon, as lebanon is not their country as they pledged allegiance to iran... they d be safe then LOL

he pledge allegiance to Israel and Saudi.

@Mystic I'm not a takfiri i don't want any foreign involvement in lebanon nor do i want any lebanese involved in somebody elses war Hizbollah started off in the good graces of most lebanese but i think now their resistance is no longer needed all that is needed is reconciiation and lead needs to come from nasrollah he should stop all hostilities immediately form a political party and join a nation unity government so we can control our borders because we lebanese decide who comes and who goes from our country not syria not iran not saudi arabia or any other nation