Mustaqbal, Hizbullah in Heated Parliamentary Debate on Army Operation in Abra
إقرأ هذا الخبر بالعربيةA heated debate took place on Thursday between MPs belonging to Hizbullah and the Mustaqbal Movement during a meeting for the defense and interior parliamentary committee, during which Mustaqbal's MPs demanded clarifications on the army's role in the Abra clashes.
"We are the army, well-known for our discipline and professionalism, we only act according to the requirements of the security situation and our only objective is to protect the country and prevent civil strife," caretaker Defense Minister Fayez Ghosn told reporters after taking part in the meeting at Nejmeh Square.
"I call on the parliament and on the specialized committees that want to ask us questions about the Sidon incidents to summon us so that we discuss how we can provide the army with the unavailable assets, as it is the only force that is protecting all the Lebanese, uniting them and proventing the spread of strife," Ghosn added.
Asked whether the ministry was being called to account over what happened in Abra, Ghosn angrily replied: “I reject the term accountability, as the army cannot be called to account and it is performing its duties with all due professionalism and discipline.”
Commenting on the videos displayed during the meeting, the minister said: “We offered clarifications and documents that prove that the operation conducted by the army was of a purely security nature and was conducted with all due professionalism and discipline, and we stressed that our first and main objective during that operation was to keep civilians out of the fighting and spare them any injuries and this is what happened.”
Asked whether Hizbullah members had taken part in the operation, Ghosn said: "No one participated other than army troops and when the army is present it would be in charge of all things."
Meanwhile, Mustaqbal bloc MP Khaled al-Daher said the MPs of Hizbullah and the March 8 forces "insisted on wasting time and rejecting the principle of holding such sessions that are aimed at clarifying things to the public opinion."
"In their opinion, it is unacceptable to raise any questions, interrogations or clarifications and they believe that the army is sacred and we must support it," Daher added.
And as the lawmaker underlined his "support for all state institutions, the army, the Internal Security Forces and all security and political institutions," he emphasized that “the ultimate sovereignty must be for the security and military institutions over all Lebanese regions and no party or militia must possess arms with the aim of practicing any form of autonomy.”
Daher also raised questions over pictures and videos circulated in the wake of the Abra battle about alleged “executions” and “artillery that took part in the shelling of Abra and Sidon's neighborhoods, the deployment of Hizbullah gunmen and the shooting that targeted MP Bahia Hariri's residence in Majdelyoun.”
“How could citizens be killed at the bases of Lebanese army intelligence? Do they want us to refrain from holding accountable those who commit a crime? Is there anyone who is above the law? Is the president of the republic himself above the constitution and above the law?" Daher added.
"There are regions that are not under Hizbullah's control and they want to use the Lebanese army to hit the Sunni and Christian regions," Daher claimed.
On June 23, gunmen loyal to Sheikh Ahmed al-Asir attacked an army checkpoint near the Islamist cleric's mosque in Sidon's Abra. Eighteen soldiers were martyred and 20 others were wounded in the attack and in the fierce clashes that ensued.
At least twenty of Asir's gunmen were also killed in the battle that ended when the army stormed Asir's headquarters on June 24.
In the wake of the clashes, two videos showing army troops abusing detainees allegedly linked to Asir were circulated on social networking websites.
Human Rights Watch has also urged an independent investigation into claims that a man identified as Nader al-Bayoumy had died under torture while in the custody of the army.
The army has referred the troops who appeared in the videos to the Military Court and launched a probe into the alleged abuses.
Daher's remarks drew a response from MP Qassem Hashem, member of the Baath bloc and the Development and Liberation bloc, who said "there is someone trying to attack the army and to carry on with the campaign that has been waged against it, while this session should have been dedicated to supporting and embracing the army."
For his part, Loyalty to Resistance bloc MP Ali Ammar hit back at Daher, saying "it's about time for the camp of sedition, the camp of violations that preaches virtue and practices the total opposite – after it lost all its bets – to draw lessons and stop undermining the country's unity, civil peace, national unity, the Lebanese army and the Lebanese state."
"We want to protect this institution (Lebanese army) and we will not tolerate this political aggression against the army. I call on this camp (March 14) to review its calculations very well as the Lebanese army institution is an institution that is protecting civil peace and the national dignity," Ammar added.
LBCI television said the video displayed by the Army Command during the meeting “documents the beginning of the clash between al-Asir and the army and shows him changing his outfit and wearing military fatigues before opening fire.”
OTV said the army showed the MPs footage proving that "Asir had created an operations room in Abra and installed surveillance cameras that filmed him giving orders to kill army troops."
The fighting in Abra was among the worst in Lebanon since the outbreak of conflict in neighboring Syria 27 months ago deepened sectarian tensions.
It highlighted widespread Sunni resentment against the army, accused of siding with Hizbullah and being selective in its crackdown on armed groups.
oh my....mustaqbal has transformed from the post hariri revolution to now siding with the asirs of the world over the slaughtered army men of this country (which no one seems to bring up anymore)
they whine everyday since 4 years about Samer Hanna, which was a dramatic accident which was judged and the case closed years ago. But when Assir slaughters soldier in a premeditated cold blooded way, just a few weeks ago, they already forgot about it.
double standards much?
mustaqbal I used to respect you... You are sliding downwards and downwards and downwards... What can I expect from a party whose leader is in saudi? We need new sunnite leadership...
"Sarcasm is what you use when you've ran out of productive counterpoints. It's lazy."
Change the record.
I thought RFT made the point (counter-argument) very effectively. Too bad you failed to see it. When you peel off the sarcasm his point was every public servant be it civil or military should be accountable for their action in front of the public opinion and courts.
My point is: By holding our military accountable for their actions is how you preserve the institutions. Look what happened to our politicians who are not held accountable to anything, our political institution now is a wasteland.
Hello free iranian mind; the poster RFT made his point, but what is your productive point of view? Even your butcher Assad said only yesterday that الرئيسالسوري: عندما يخطىء المسؤول يجب أن يحاسب
http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/arab-and-world/syria/2013/07/11/الرئيس-السوري-عندما-يخطىء-المسؤول-يجب-أن-يحاسب-.html
Where should a state institution be held accountable if not in parliament.... on the street like you hooligans do? Ma badnaa jeish blibnein ella jeish al hussain? Go to iran free sick mind where democracy is farsi style. When your hooligans attacked the army in mar mkhael and stripped the army and its officers of their weapons, your terrorist leader in a televised speech called for holding the army accountable and these officers were later suspended and he did not do it in parliament. You shia with free mind want democracy when it suits you, love the army when it suits, and you want the army to integrate with HA and become jeish al hussain.
This political campaign against the army led by Mustaqbel is counter-productive and totally irresponsible.
Enough said on the subject.
lebanon_first Hariri is in Saudi because if comes to Lebanon, his destiny would the same destiny other politicians had -- A car bomb. We all know Hizbullah style of dealing with their opponents
Hizbullah is nothing but a terrorist organization -- Filthy militia
Holding the army accountable is to preserve it.
We want to make sure the army does not commit abuses like HA
Similarly we should hold our politicians accountable (look what happened to our political institution because our law makers are above the law.).
Accountability is what the LAF itself teaches its members, and the LAF have no problem turning its members who commit abuses to be tried. So I am proud of them for turning the responsible 5 soldiers for trial.
Every well functioning and secure country has institutions that are accountable to the government - a civilian government, not a militia.
When did asking questions of an institution that is accountable to the government become equivocated to undermining it? I am sure that a few posters have some points of contention with mustaqbal - as do I - but I clearly insist our army is accountable, and this accountability should ensure it is not partisan to HA or its assassin politics.
They said they have videos showing assir had started the fight, and was giving orders to kill army... Can can we plz see these videos? And anyone still talking should be prosecuted... If its true.
As to you Mr. the wolf, I don't know which village you come from as you are hardly legible. Don't claim monopoly of your love for the army. Everybody loves the army when it is fair, just and acts according to the oath it took. The army is not doing its job at all..... Allowing the free flow of weapons and fighters and specifically those of your HA into Syria is a prime example of its failure. Its primary job is to defend the borders, and it is not doing so! Army officers drive new Range Rovers; their sons and daughters have Porsches, and their wives have 2-3 maids. Have you seen an army officer above the rank of captain who is not overweighed and obese! How much is the salary of an officer ion the army? How can they afford such luxuries! The army commander owns a Yacht for your information. Go back to school and learn what democracy and accountability mean.
.....the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States drives a 2010 Ford Explorer and he is held accountable for every penny he has and for every action he takes. Each one of you wants an army tailored to his wishes and sectarian biases. Today, we love the army because it is keeping a blind eye to HA activities in Syria. Have you asked yourself how did 15000 HA fighters or whatever pro-rebel fighters ended up in Syria. Did they cross the border or did they land by parachute! Now, tell me about accountability. In a civilized country, the commander of the army will be questioned by the parliament and held accountable.
يقول السيد ابراهيم الأمين (قيادي في الحزب) في جريدة "النهار" بتاريخ 5/3/2013: "نحن لا نقول اننا جزء من ايران، نحن ايران في لبنان، ولبنان في ايران"
Armies are suppose to answer to the people, and a Defense Minister should want to clear up any questions and doubts. Hizbullah will not event let the security forces do their job, they cordon off and remove evidence in areas under their control. Yet they and their cheerleaders talk endless nonsense, hypocrites to the end.
dude, calm down and make sure you take your xanax before making another thread--you really need to think straight and stop making accusations you can't back.
jewish, what a laugh--on another note, i actually know more jews, hindus, and zoroastrians than i know shia-don't know how that happens, but it does.