besides, future and LF have a LOT of weapons too, they just lack the guts & skills, so they wish HA would be disarmed so they could have an easy fight against unarmed civilians, just like in the good old days, remember sabra & chatila?
you dont need to support hezbollah or be with it to be a patriot, you can oppose, criticize and do whatever you want, but talking about "removing hezbollah" when you're talking about a resistance movement and a party that represents over 2 million Lebanese, yes, you'd have to be a zionist
do i talk about annihilating the future movement for instance? if i did i would be betraying my country by encouraging sedition and making cohabitation impossible
1- I consider myself innocent, but if i was called by a foreign tribunal, working under control of a country that wants to colonize me and that has the right to accuse and convict based on proof that will not be shown to me and anonymous testimonials i will not hear, than yes i wouldnt be reassured (read the rules of procedure and evidence of the STL)
2/ no, simply wrong, HA never approved the STL, because of the abovesaid flaws in the procedures, the cabinet passed it while all HA ministers had resigned and without parliament
3/ why? because 62 countries depend on US, or fear them, or think they will get a piece of the cake
4/ oh really? a big LOL on that one, read the posts throughout the website and do your maths, the farateen talk like open sewers
5/ i do care, certainly more than bellemerde, and i know who killed them, you know who killed them, saadoun knows who killed his dad, but i refuse to play the game they are all playing, shame on you and them
ok, assuming you guys really believe what you're saying, and although your posts are very weak in the sense that calling me iranian and brainwashed is a very worn out and pointless rhetoric, here it goes:
the source:
http://www.stl-tsl.org/x/file/TheRegistry/Library/BackgroundDocuments/RulesRegulations/STL_Rules_of_Procedure_and_Evidence-En.pdf
Rule 110
Disclosure by the Prosecutor
Subject to the provisions of Rules 115, 116, 117 and 118:
(A) the Prosecutor shall make available to the Defence in a language which the accused understands [...]
(i) copies of the supporting material which accompanied the indictment [...]
(ii) [...] copies of: (a) the statements of all witnesses whom the Prosecutor intends to call to testify [...]
//up to here we agree, this is logical, any trial in the world requires that the prosecution presents proof and testimonials on which the accusation is based. BUT let's have a look at the beginning: "Subject to the provisions of Rules 115, 116, 117 and 118"
Rule 115
Protection of Victims and Witnesses
(A) In exceptional circumstances, the Prosecutor may apply to the Pre-Trial Judge or Trial Chamber to order interim non-disclosure of the identity of a victim or witness who may be in danger or at risk until such a person is brought under the protection of the Tribunal.
First irregularity, this rule allows to have anonymous witnesses. This is something you will find in no court in the world, except the STL. The lame excuse invoked (their protection) is not receivable anywhere else and that is why there are witness protection programs, where they are given new identities and a fresh start life somewhere else to protect them.
Rule 116
Application and Grounds for Non-Disclosure
(A) Where information in the possession of the Prosecutor is not obtained under or otherwise subject to Rule 118, and its disclosure would ordinarily be required under Rule 110 or 113, but such disclosure (i) may prejudice ongoing or future investigations, (ii) may cause grave risk to the
security of a witness or his family, or (iii) for any other reasons may be contrary to the public interest, the Prosecutor may apply ex parte to the Trial Chamber sitting in camera to be relieved in whole or in part of an obligation under the Rules to disclose that material. When making such
application the Prosecutor shall provide the Trial Chamber with the information that is sought to be kept confidential, together with a statement relating to the proposed counterbalancing measures including, inter alia: identification of new, similar information; provision of the
information in summarised or redacted form; or stipulation of the relevant facts.
this one here is just hilarious, in case presenting the evidence in contrary to "general interest" (ROFL) they just hide it, "present it to the judges" and give you a "summarized report" or just state "the relevant facts"
in brief this means i can convict and condemn you based on proof you will not see, all i need to do is tell you the relevant fact, such as "this invisible proof said you're guilty, what do you answer to that for your defense?"
and yet some more:
Rule 117
Security Interests of States and Other International Entities
(A) Where information in the possession of the Prosecutor is not obtained under or otherwise subject to Rule 118, and its disclosure would ordinarily be required under Rule 110 or 113, but such disclosure may affect the security interests of a State or international entity, the Prosecutor may apply ex parte to the Pre-Trial Judge sitting in camera for an order to be relieved of his obligation to disclose in whole or in part, or subject to counterbalancing measures provided for in Rule 116(A). (amended 5 June 2009)
Here they simply tell you that is would be legal to not disclose proof if that proof may affect the security of a state (say for instance that state is israel, and the proof shows that they have something to do with it, then the LEGALLY can not show that proof)
the counterbalancing measure are the same as above, like stating facts, but with no way for the defense to verify or contradict
and a bonus one :
Rule 113
Disclosure of Exculpatory Material
Subject to the provisions of Rules 116, 117 and 118, the Prosecutor shall, as soon as practicable,
disclose to the Defence any information in his possession or actual knowledge, which may reasonably
suggest the innocence or mitigate the guilt of the accused or affect the credibility of the Prosecutor’s
evidence.
sound logical? yes indeed. BUT it is immediately overrun by this:
Miqati Says ‘Sabotaging the Nation is a Crime,’ March 14 Suffering from ‘Disorder’
04 July 2011, 17:23besides, future and LF have a LOT of weapons too, they just lack the guts & skills, so they wish HA would be disarmed so they could have an easy fight against unarmed civilians, just like in the good old days, remember sabra & chatila?
Roknabadi Describes Indictment as ‘Politicized’, Rules Out Israeli Attack
04 July 2011, 17:27you dont need to support hezbollah or be with it to be a patriot, you can oppose, criticize and do whatever you want, but talking about "removing hezbollah" when you're talking about a resistance movement and a party that represents over 2 million Lebanese, yes, you'd have to be a zionist
do i talk about annihilating the future movement for instance? if i did i would be betraying my country by encouraging sedition and making cohabitation impossible
Report: New STL Arrest Warrants Against More than 14 Suspects Soon
04 July 2011, 18:131- I consider myself innocent, but if i was called by a foreign tribunal, working under control of a country that wants to colonize me and that has the right to accuse and convict based on proof that will not be shown to me and anonymous testimonials i will not hear, than yes i wouldnt be reassured (read the rules of procedure and evidence of the STL)
2/ no, simply wrong, HA never approved the STL, because of the abovesaid flaws in the procedures, the cabinet passed it while all HA ministers had resigned and without parliament
3/ why? because 62 countries depend on US, or fear them, or think they will get a piece of the cake
4/ oh really? a big LOL on that one, read the posts throughout the website and do your maths, the farateen talk like open sewers
5/ i do care, certainly more than bellemerde, and i know who killed them, you know who killed them, saadoun knows who killed his dad, but i refuse to play the game they are all playing, shame on you and them
Miqati Says ‘Sabotaging the Nation is a Crime,’ March 14 Suffering from ‘Disorder’
04 July 2011, 18:36you keep talking about facts but never mentioned one, your babbling is as useless as it is ridiculous
Report: New STL Arrest Warrants Against More than 14 Suspects Soon
05 July 2011, 10:18ok, assuming you guys really believe what you're saying, and although your posts are very weak in the sense that calling me iranian and brainwashed is a very worn out and pointless rhetoric, here it goes:
the source:
http://www.stl-tsl.org/x/file/TheRegistry/Library/BackgroundDocuments/RulesRegulations/STL_Rules_of_Procedure_and_Evidence-En.pdf
Rule 110
Disclosure by the Prosecutor
Subject to the provisions of Rules 115, 116, 117 and 118:
(A) the Prosecutor shall make available to the Defence in a language which the accused understands [...]
(i) copies of the supporting material which accompanied the indictment [...]
(ii) [...] copies of: (a) the statements of all witnesses whom the Prosecutor intends to call to testify [...]
//up to here we agree, this is logical, any trial in the world requires that the prosecution presents proof and testimonials on which the accusation is based. BUT let's have a look at the beginning: "Subject to the provisions of Rules 115, 116, 117 and 118"
Report: New STL Arrest Warrants Against More than 14 Suspects Soon
05 July 2011, 10:21Rule 115
Protection of Victims and Witnesses
(A) In exceptional circumstances, the Prosecutor may apply to the Pre-Trial Judge or Trial Chamber to order interim non-disclosure of the identity of a victim or witness who may be in danger or at risk until such a person is brought under the protection of the Tribunal.
First irregularity, this rule allows to have anonymous witnesses. This is something you will find in no court in the world, except the STL. The lame excuse invoked (their protection) is not receivable anywhere else and that is why there are witness protection programs, where they are given new identities and a fresh start life somewhere else to protect them.
Report: New STL Arrest Warrants Against More than 14 Suspects Soon
05 July 2011, 10:22Rule 116
Application and Grounds for Non-Disclosure
(A) Where information in the possession of the Prosecutor is not obtained under or otherwise subject to Rule 118, and its disclosure would ordinarily be required under Rule 110 or 113, but such disclosure (i) may prejudice ongoing or future investigations, (ii) may cause grave risk to the
security of a witness or his family, or (iii) for any other reasons may be contrary to the public interest, the Prosecutor may apply ex parte to the Trial Chamber sitting in camera to be relieved in whole or in part of an obligation under the Rules to disclose that material. When making such
application the Prosecutor shall provide the Trial Chamber with the information that is sought to be kept confidential, together with a statement relating to the proposed counterbalancing measures including, inter alia: identification of new, similar information; provision of the
information in summarised or redacted form; or stipulation of the relevant facts.
Report: New STL Arrest Warrants Against More than 14 Suspects Soon
05 July 2011, 10:26this one here is just hilarious, in case presenting the evidence in contrary to "general interest" (ROFL) they just hide it, "present it to the judges" and give you a "summarized report" or just state "the relevant facts"
in brief this means i can convict and condemn you based on proof you will not see, all i need to do is tell you the relevant fact, such as "this invisible proof said you're guilty, what do you answer to that for your defense?"
Report: New STL Arrest Warrants Against More than 14 Suspects Soon
05 July 2011, 10:30and yet some more:
Rule 117
Security Interests of States and Other International Entities
(A) Where information in the possession of the Prosecutor is not obtained under or otherwise subject to Rule 118, and its disclosure would ordinarily be required under Rule 110 or 113, but such disclosure may affect the security interests of a State or international entity, the Prosecutor may apply ex parte to the Pre-Trial Judge sitting in camera for an order to be relieved of his obligation to disclose in whole or in part, or subject to counterbalancing measures provided for in Rule 116(A). (amended 5 June 2009)
Here they simply tell you that is would be legal to not disclose proof if that proof may affect the security of a state (say for instance that state is israel, and the proof shows that they have something to do with it, then the LEGALLY can not show that proof)
the counterbalancing measure are the same as above, like stating facts, but with no way for the defense to verify or contradict
Report: New STL Arrest Warrants Against More than 14 Suspects Soon
05 July 2011, 10:35and a bonus one :
Rule 113
Disclosure of Exculpatory Material
Subject to the provisions of Rules 116, 117 and 118, the Prosecutor shall, as soon as practicable,
disclose to the Defence any information in his possession or actual knowledge, which may reasonably
suggest the innocence or mitigate the guilt of the accused or affect the credibility of the Prosecutor’s
evidence.
sound logical? yes indeed. BUT it is immediately overrun by this: