موسكو ودمشق يعتبران "اي ضربات أميركية احادية ضد "داعش" في سوريا ستشكل عملا عدائيا
Read this story in Englishاعتبرت موسكو الخميس ان اي ضربات اميركية ضد تنظيم "الدولة الاسلامية" في سوريا بدون موافقة الامم المتحدة ستشكل "انتهاكا فاضحا" للقانون الدولي.
وقال المتحدث باسم الخارجية الروسية الكسندر لوكاشيفيتش ان "الرئيس الاميركي اعلن عن احتمال توجيه ضربات لمواقع الدولة الاسلامية في سوريا بدون موافقة الحكومة الشرعية (نظام الرئيس بشار الاسد)".
واضاف "ان مثل هذه المبادرة في غياب قرار من مجلس الامن الدولي ستشكل عملا عدائيا وانتهاكا فاضحا للقانون الدولي".
أما دمشق فاعتبرت بعد ساعات من اعلان الرئيس الأميركي باراك اوباما حربا "بلا هوادة"، على تنظيم "الدولة الاسلامية"، فرأت أن أي عمل عسكري اميركي على اراضيها دون موافقتها هو بمثابة "اعتداء"، بحسب تصريحات الوزير السوري علي حيدر.
وقال وزير المصالحة الوطنية علي حيدر ردا على أسئلة الصحافيين بعد لقائه الموفد الدولي ستافان دو ميستورا، ان "اي عمل كان، من اي نوع كان، دون موافقة الحكومة السورية هو اعتداء على سوريا"، مشيرا الى انه "في القانون الدولي، لا بد من التعاون مع سوريا والتنسيق مع سوريا وموافقة سوريا على اي عمل كان، عسكري او غير عسكري، على الارض السورية".
come on Mr mualem this will help u and yur gov..pls see z big picture..dont be narrow minded.
Only USA are the narrow minded, it is apparently on ISIS that are terrorists, but the Al Nusra are saints according to American policy.
US arrogance. they created this chaos and spawned isis/nusra/etc by first destroying iraq and installing a sectarian-based government, then destroying syria by arming terrorist groups (the "moderated beheaders"), and now they take it as a pretext to unilaterally bomb syria.
bombing isis would certainly be okay if it was just that, but the question is what happens next? once da3esh is bombed, will they install a no fly-zone over northeastern syria? start implementing a de-facto partition plan on syria? who knows?
in any case, nobody should trust the US, they always come under false pretexts (bring democracy, free the people) and their cures always end up causing much worse damage than the original disease.
the HA parasites are celebrating when the USA bombs ISIL in Iraq but very sad if it does the same in Syria. Incredible! It is obvious why: In Iraq they have a shia regime which is ok if the USA bombs ISIL. In Syria, they are afraid if the USA bombs ISIL it might weaken Assad and his minority regime. Hilarious!
arsal i didnt say he abused sunnis, that's an entirely different matter but yes it is a sectarian type of governemnt (kurd president, shiite prime minister, etc...) a bit like in lebanon and everybody knows where this leads. the US couldnt have done this innocently when they invaded iraq, it was part of their plan to divide and conquer. when will we learn?
anonyme go shove your "offers", i'm not interested in talking with a disrespectful hypocrite who repeats invented BS day in and day out
Yes it would be a breach of Syrias sovereign territory. If USA want to go on a bombing spree, they have to coordinate with the Syrian government, if not. Then we will see what happens
But of course any US air strikes on the IS jihadists in Syria would be an attack on the Syrian government's allies, that goes without saying. After all they were not given that get out of jail free card, free; that was a quid pro quo. They had a job to do, their Jihadi duty as it were. Plus the oil and gas IS is offering at discounted black market prices to finance their shenanigans is a bonus, a happy accident, the cherry on top the Syrian government could not miss.
The same international law you broke hundreds of times from starvation to discrimination, ethnic cleansing, chemical weapons, barrel bombs... And the list goes on
And u want the same governance system that defends this law to cooperate with u against the 200k victims
Really?
Mystic, the United States doesn't need Syria's permission for anything. It isn't violating international law because no one in the international community (other than Russia) recognises Assad as the representative of Syria. Assad isn't doing enough to fight ISIS, not to mention all the atrocities he's committed. Assad will bow down and accept this.
The war in Syria has gotten to this point because of Obama. The US military and all of Obama's advisors told him to supply the FSA 2.5 years ago (before Nusra and ISIS took over), and Obama ignored them. Then after Bashar gassed his own people, the US was gonna drop airstrikes but Obama backed out again. But now because of ISIS, they forced Obama's hand. Last night he gave a speech he never wanted to give.
Very fertile imagination? Sorry I forgot to include China, the country that puts lead in dog food and antifreeze in toothpaste? Assad is not doing enough to fight ISIS, Binary. If he was, then ISIS wouldn't be controlling Der ez-Zor, the desert, and Raqqa.
Assad is playing a game. He released jihadists from prison to weaken the FSA, to make it look like the jihadists were behind the uprising. Assad also is buying oil from the jihadists, in effect financing and straightening their capabilities.
Lol well yeah toothpaste is used for brushing your teeth, not swallowing. As for mouthwash, you rinse your mouth then spit it out. You can ingest a little, but if you drink cups of it then you get nausea.
As usual @the_roar "ASSad" personal attack everyone then he preach against it, such a low life...
Bigjohn, we're talking about relevant countries, which consists of the West, the East (Russia and China), and the Middle East. What in your mind makes Latin America's view credible? When was the last time you heard a Latin country involved in world wars? And it's funny how you bring up South Africa, as you love to compare Israel to it (but it's okay now because they're not an apartheid state anymore).
Nope my friend and dear comrad, u should look back to UN general assembly voting and u'll get true numbers before coming and speaking shitty fact...
Walaw rafi2...
Go read, relax, have some chupachups....
Okay Roar, they fluoridate water. But it's still a debate as to whether or not it's truly harmful. The US, UK, Ireland, Canada, and Australia still fluoridate their water. However they do chlorinate water as well. So we're both right.
But Roar, that's not even the point. China got in trouble for putting LEAD in dog food, baby bibs, and toys. You're making fluoride look like something lethal and inhumane when it's still being debated on.
Per f.t. "bigjohn, when the US says international community, M14 are always counted in it. please dont make that mistake again!!"
f.t., when Iran says welayat elfaqih, H.A. always counted in it.
Roar you were hostile with me first. All I said was China put lead in things then you went on this rant about the US poisoning its people with fluorine. The argument was stupid, you took the China thing way out of context. Some people believe fluorine is good for your teeth. I don't know if it is or not, I'm not a chemist.
Have u seen HA jihadis
I think they wear pink and sing im a barbie girl
Different agenda same shit!
Have u seen HA jihadis
I think they wear pink and sing im a barbie girl
Different agenda same shit!
Stop using christians here and there
In iraq they were threatened by da 3esh and now we're fighting them
In syria, they're a victim of their own fear bc they sides with teh dictator and rejoiced when their ex neighbors were bombed
But history shows taht while the winner gets the spoils, even after WW2 communities reconciled and it worked
So shut up, and spell the word well next time u use it
What do these people want?:) Now they are worried about sovereignty! Russia, Iran, HA, and about every other country is involved in Syria. It seems they want ISIL to be saved.
"in Syria there is no moderate 'rebels' but Syrians and foreign extremist terrorists that SAA is fighting with HA support.".. Sure, HA is a Syrian home grown resistance and is entitled to kill the Syrians in their own country. Great logic
Damascus: Any U.S. military act in Syrian territory without Syria's authorization will be considered an aggression.
tayyib authorize it if you really want to get rid of IS, what is stopping you... unbelievable!
Exactly. Now that the US is going to launch more airstrikes against them, all the M8ers are complaining that they're violating Syrian sovereignty, which is hypocrisy because Syria is violating Lebanese sovereignty with their airstrikes on Arsal. M8ers just want Hezbollah and Assad to fight ISIS and drag this war on
And infiltrating Ukraine with tanks and artillery and troops is legal? I don't get the Russians anymore..
First of all this has nothing to do with bombing Hezbollah. You want the US to "stop arming" ISIS? When ISIS went into Mosul, the Iraqi military-trained by the US, financed by the US, armed by the US-threw down their weapons and ran away like pansies.
Assad released militants to fight the US in Iraq, and he released more to weaken the FSA. So spare me the "US is arming ISIS" rant. Assad is buying oil from ISIS in Der ez-Zor, strengthening them financially.
Roar you're just living in denial. The Iraqi ARMY-not Kurds or Sunni tribesmen-laid their weapons down and ran. How else did ISIS get American military equipment?
Oh don't live in denial. Assad sent these people to Iraq after the US invaded it to take out Saddam. When these people came back to Syria, Assad threw them in jail. How do you think these Islamists were in prison at the start of the Syrian war? Use your head
Roar, even technically speaking it was Assad. As I already said, he sent these lunatics from Syria to Iraq after the US took out Saddam. When these people came back from Iraq he imprisoned them. Maybe they weren't called "ISIS" back then but they're still radical Islamists. Then when the uprising in Syria broke out, he released these people to weaken the FSA. The US supported the FSA, but the FSA had leaks in it. Weapons were ending up with jihadists who Assad released. This is how ISIS gained strength in Syria before invading Iraq this summer.
Roar he's not winning it back, Assad knows that. He'd rather see a country destroyed and 200,000 people dead as long as he controls at least some parts of the country. It's harder to lose a war when you have enemies fighting each other. ISIS is the only excuse Assad has against the opposition. He claims the war was started by ISIS (which really wasn't). So now that the US is going to bomb ISIS, he doesn't want that because he no longer would have ISIS around to justify his war against moderates like the FSA.
Yeah Flamer, so what? Of course Turkey is helping ISIS, that's how Qatar and KSA move their money around. Erdogan is just as much a dictator as Assad, he's trying to take Turkey back to Ottoman times.
But yet gain, you bring facts that don't relate to the argument: Roar asked me who armed ISIS first, not who is arming ISIS in September 2014.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/fall/world-nuts-daily
WorldNet Daily Continues to Pump Out Outrageous Propaganda
M8ers always using biased and extremists sources to spread their loyalty to bashar....
Of course it's propaganda from Assad. He is in no position to decide if the US can bomb ISIS areas, Assad doesn't even control them therefore his "sovereignty" isn't being violated.
Flamer, we weren't talking about who the Syrian Arab Army reports to. We're talking about whether or not Assad can tell the US not to bomb Syria. Forgot your pills today?
An Australian ends up next to a British soldier in the trenches during World War II.
The British soldier turns to him and says, "Good to see you, mate. Have you come here to die?"
To which the Australian replies, "No, mate, I came here yesterday!"
Try a litle to look for lokman, the da3ech chieh in damscus area, go see who teleased him in 2011 with nearly 500 of islamist retard...
Bigjohn please go read, after u might get more chupachups man....
Anw i agree that US freed baghdadi and also a buch of other retards to, but don't act like assad didnot..
And as lebanese u forgot chaket el absi? Can u remind us where he is coming from?....
Binary, of course the US rejected Assad's offer to cooperate. He has no legitimacy, he kills his own people and controls only half of Syria. The lands conquered by ISIS are no longer Assad's, therefore it is no longer his airspace either. Assad is in no position to decide who can attack areas controlled by ISIS.
Bigjohn, that may be accurate but it doesn't exonerate Assad from freeing jihadists and buying oil from them. Assad is just as culpable.
Right now the priority is ISIS. They are in two countries, and they need to be eradicated. It might strengthen Assad in the meantime, but stopping ISIS is the main objective. Assad will be put aside for now, as he clearly has proved to be incompetent. He's the one who released these lunatics from his prisons, and he's the one buying oil from them. That's why the US won't let him cooperate. He might make some gains on the ground when ISIS retreats, but he's never going to regain entire control of Syria. As for the Islamic Front, the West somewhat tolerates it, but once ISIS is done, the Islamic Front is going to have to fall in line with the FSA. If that doesn't happen, the war will never end.
I said who doesn't want to kill ISIS, Assad or Obama? If you're talking about Assad, he has to buy oil from them to supply his military and utilities in areas he controls. But if the US is going to wipe out ISIS, Assad wants to reclaim his oil fields. If you're talking about Obama, he's a pansy. The US military and many others told him to attack ISIS and he didn't. Now he's been cornered, he's reluctantly approving these airstrikes.
I am sure there were moderate rebels ........ but what happened to them?
- Some are refugees in other countries
- Many are killed by both Regime and ISIS
- Many got frustrated and decided to join ISIS or quit the fight all together
BASHAR's plan worked so well, which allows you to make your argument today.
The USA will bomb ISIS or any other terrorist no matter where, if ASSad controls the area then he should complain, otherwise shut the hell up and watch the fireworks.
Whether you guys can admit it or not. We all know that ISIS and Al Nusra was made by U.S.A. Just like Taliban was in it's time. Funded and trained by the CIA.
USA is the problem, not the solution. So it will always be, until the end of all time.
The Hezbo-Aouniyeh psychos always argue that America is behind all the terrorism. Well, now the US wants to take out something it allegedly created, and now they're complaining how they're violating Assad's sovereignty. Assad violated his own sovereignty. He sent these fanatics to keep Iraq unstable after Saddam's defeat, then he imprisoned them when they came back to Syria, then he released them when the FSA was making gains, then decided to ignore them when they took over Raqqa (choosing to fight FSA and Nusra), then bought their oil after they took Der ez-Zor. He has no say who can or can't bomb areas that aren't even under his control.
Remember when the US "accidentally" delivered 5 JDAM bombs on the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade? That was 1999. Mr. President, This is a good time to wax Bashar al-ASSad as well. Hey, just blame it on false intelligence.
Israel isn't in civil war. There's no armed Israeli opposition fighting Netanyahu. The majority of Israelis supported the Gaza war