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U.S.: Lebanese Financial Institutions Laundered Millions to Benefit Hizbullah

thefbi: "If you do some research you will find that" really? show us research, because in the mean time all you're doing is pushing the limits of baseless and empty accusations.

geha: technicalities? that's how you see it? when a full power campaign is launched to demonize a group, it's in the technicalities that you see if the accusations make sense (and therefore the campaign is legitimate) or if they dont (and therefore there is a secret agenda, which is not to defend truth, justice, freedom, but rather crush any and every dissidence in the world, imposing their reign of terror and brutality)

I also see what you mean when you talk of the consequences. Yes, if they attack the banking system it will hurt us all, but that is exactly how collective punishment works. during WWII nazis would execute civilians of nearby villages every time a resistance operation would occur. this was an open policy to make the population turn against the resistants. divide and rule geha, divide and rule

U.S.: Lebanese Financial Institutions Laundered Millions to Benefit Hizbullah

geha: u're nearing the point here: if the country goes down, the resistance goes down with it, indeed, and if the resistance goes down, the country will go down with it. it is indivisible, the country and resistance are one. the resistance has no meaning if not to protect the country, and that is why it is targeted. they want us weak and divided. why do you think?

U.S.: Lebanese Financial Institutions Laundered Millions to Benefit Hizbullah

peace, no i dont think hezbollah weakens our state, but in any case, what israel fears is not the strength of our laws but our capacity to retaliate (hitting haifa, tel aviv etc..) and to defeat their troops if they cross into out territory.

and really, if you can be honest for a second with yourself, you'd realize hezbollah is not the one dividing the country, it is the unjustified rejection and constant aggression against it that divides the country.

also although it is true that hezbollah took over the "job" of resistance in the south, you can understand i am sure, that having a multitude of random groups can lead nowhere besides chaos and division. it's already hard now to contain the consequences of some groups who decide to fire rockets randomly (like a couple of weeks ago), what do you think would happens if you had tens of groups operating in parallel? hezbollah was obviously the most efficient and responsible, and i think it is natural that they take on that role.

Hizbullah Warns March 14 Against Dangerous Consequences of its Accusations

peace, as i just told you on the other thread: extremis malis extrema remedia (extreme cures for extreme ills). hezbollah is not just a political party, it is the only entity currently able to face effectively the threat that we are facing. they have proven to be much more efficient than anyone expected (this includes mossad and cia) in fighting off invading armies and espionage. Whenever possible and every time it is required, they coordinate with state institutions, but some times they have to take some initiatives. it's not a kindergarten game they're playing here, the government cannot protect them, this has been seen for years before, and although they are not blaming the government for its failure to do so, they are taking their lives into their own hands.

U.S.: Lebanese Financial Institutions Laundered Millions to Benefit Hizbullah

no geha: what YOU are saying is totally wrong, what you're saying is you're ready to sacrifice your fellow countrymen to save your own ass. the people in the south, are the primary target for israelis, whether for the water or the land or the implantation of palestinians.
the kissinger plan per se might not be actual anymore, mainly because it failed, but it planned to deport shiites form south lebanon into neighboring countries and iraq. current plans are more secretive so we can't know for sure, but in any case they dont sound good for the people of the south. and because israel blackmails you, you desolidarize, you think it's not your problem, and some are even ready to fight their war in their place.
you must understand one thing, hezbollah's aim is before anything to defend the people who in the line of fire of zionist expansion. they cannot give up their weapon because that would mean giving up their only possibility of defending their families, land and lives.

U.S.: Lebanese Financial Institutions Laundered Millions to Benefit Hizbullah

ps: peace, israel's war on lebanon costed it 5 bn$ and they lost another 5 bn$ in loss of economic activity, so they, in term of economic loss, lost as much as us. now this is not the most important, human lives are more important, and it is true that while they blindly bombed civilians and killed scores, hezbollah aimed at armed troops and therefore killed a few hundreds (the actual number is subject to debate, but the minimum would be at least what the israelis acknowledged themselves = approx 150 soldiers and something like a dozen civilians)

yet it is not a matter of mathematical calculus, the real deal is that now they think twice before bombing, the fear is not one-sided anymore. dont you remember that they used to bomb us every summer? how many times did they raze electric stations between 1990 and 2006?

get real, seriously, you know all this and i know you do, dont turn a blind eye.

U.S.: Lebanese Financial Institutions Laundered Millions to Benefit Hizbullah

we all know that if Hezbollah laid down their weapons the first m144 government to come to power would sacrifice the south without an hesitation. "do what you want with them just leave us alone while we build downtowns for saudis and fill our pockets working with syria"

saddest part is that this might last 10 years, at most, until israel decides it needs more land and more water. some already started saying that Christians place is not here but in Europe (and we all know how wrong that is, given that historically this region is the birthplace of Christianity, but what do they care? since when did they bother with reason, ethics or justice?)
i sure hope with all my heart that this day never happens, but sometimes when i hear some of you i find myself hoping it did, just so you see and bitterly regret.

Hizbullah Warns March 14 Against Dangerous Consequences of its Accusations

future_vision: you're forgetting one thing. in 2005 the hariri assassination was blamed on Syria, all "evidence" and "proof" and "fingers" pointed at Syria...
Then after the 2006 war, where israeli bitterly realized they couldnt take on Hezbollah as easily as they thought, *poof* Syria is no longer the designated culprit!
Witnesses and proof begin to crumble, Saad Hariri announces his accusations against Syria were purely political, and progressively they start preparing the new accusation, announced by the officials at uhhh, Der Spiegel, followed a year later by the underlings at the STL...

PS: until further notices, there are no voice recordings, just calls logs with numbers, dates, locations, all easily programmable

Heavy Clashes in Ain al-Hilweh after Another al-Lino Bodyguard Killed

how delightful to see the haters openly sharing their hatred and finding common hates.

neither by religion nor race nor nationality, you are the scum of the scum, and hopefully you will meet your fate.

Hariri Willing to Leave If People Vote him Out

and to hariri, dont worry, now that you're broke and lost the support of your beloved king because you bad-mouthed him, you can't buy elections anymore, people wont even vote you in before they vote you out.