سليمان: لا يجوز ان نفسد علاقتنا مع السعودية بتوجيه التهم اليها دون أدلة
Read this story in Englishرأى رئيس الجمهورية ميشال سليمان أنه "لا يجوز ان نفسد علاقتنا مع السعودية بتوجيه التهم اليها دون أدلة"، مردفاً " نسعى لأن يصبح لبنان مركزا للحوار بين الحضارات".
وأشار سليمان في كلمة له خلال افتتاح المؤتمر الدولي "الحوار، الحقيقة، والديمقراطية"، الأربعاء، الى أنه "لا يجوز ان نفسد في العلاقات التاريخية مع دولة عزيزة كالسعودية عن طريق توجيه التهم اليها والتدخل في ازمات دول اخرى كسوريا لمناصرة فريق ضد اخر"، مردفاً ان "كل هذا يجري وعدونا يحقق اهدافه تلو الاخر واليوم حقق هدفا اخر، وان هذه المشتركات تتعلق بتحديد وجهة السلاح والدفاع عن الارض وطاقات الشباب ومعاني الاستشهاد".
ولفت "نسعى لأن يصبح لبنان مركزا للحوار بين الحضارات بما يتناسب مع موقعه وتجربته المتجذرة في التوفيق بين الوحدة والتعدد وخصوصية الانتماء والمواطنة".
وأوضح انه "انطلاقا من موقع لبنان على خريطة العالم وضعنا مجموعة اهداف استراتيجية في مقدمها تعميم نهج التلاقي والحوار حتى تصبح اكثر عدالة وتمثيلا والحوار يوصل الى مشتركات هي في ذاتها حقيقة تنبع من المعتقدات والتقاليد والحضارات ممارسة الديمقراطية، تحدثت ورقة مؤتمركم عن فكرة الديمقراطية التي لا تزال تنمو وترتقي بالتلاؤم مع المجتمعات المختلفة وظروفه"، مردفاً ان "المدن حول العالم غدت تجمعات بشرية وهي تتوسع الى تجمعات اوسع على الكرة الارضية كلبنان ولا بد من قيام ديمقراطية جديدة تتناسب مع العولمة".
وشدد سليمان في كلمته على أن "اشراك كافة المكونات في الحياة السياسية ليس بالنظر الى حجمها العددي والديمقراطية الجديدة تعزز ثقافة التنوع، وفي عالم اليوم عدد من الدول تدير ثقافة التنوع وهذه المقاربة يعززها اعتماد مبدأ النسبية كما اللامركزية الادارية"، معتبراً ان "استقرار الدول وهناء شعوبها يتوقف على طبيعة العقد الاجتماعي الذي تعتمده مكونات الشعوب ومدى توصلهم الى فهم مشترك لمفردات هذا العقد ومصطلحاته حتى يمكن القول ان هذا العقد حقيقي وقائم".
وأوضح أن "هذه الاشكالية تطرح مسألة البحث عن كيفية بناء الدولة والمحافظة على الاستقلال وهو ما دعا اليه فؤاد شهاب عبر الدعوة لبناء دولة الاستقلال الا ان الارتهان والطائفية وسوء الممارسة يفرض علينا العمل بشكل حثيث لبناء مجتمع مبني على الحقيقة والحرية وحقوق الانسان".
وكان الأمين العام لحزب الله السيد حسن نصرالله أعلن مساء الثلاثاء في حديث له عبر الـOTV، أن الحزب يصدق تماما وقوف السعودية وراء تفجير السفارة الإيرانية في بئر حسن عبر كتائب "عبدالله بن عزام" المرتبطة بالقاعدة، جازما أن عدد مقاتليه في سوريا عامة وفي القلمون حاليا "متواضع" وعدد القتلى أقل بكثير مما يحكى في الإعلام.
يذكر أن مجموعة "كتائب عبدالله عزام" المرتبطة بتنظيم القاعدة، تبنت التفجيرين اللذين اسفرا عن مقتل 25 شخصا وحوالى 150 جريحا، مهددة بانها ستواصل عملياتها حتى انسحاب عناصر حزب الله من سوريا.
and there are those who will argue against this and say HA does not take orders, or take approval... stupid is that stupid does.
now my comment looks plain stupid... someone posted a video of nassrallah saying that when a decision is to be made, they do not resort to their minds, or education.. etc..etc.. but to the faqih...
come on mowaten... how can you say that HA does not take orders when Nasrallah himself said that?? now mind you I am not arguing if Mustaqbal takes orders from KSA or anybody else.. but when someone openly says that he does not use his education or his mind, but resorts to the faqih and what he says.. how can that possibly be not taking orders???
I did. And a loose translation of what I understood is:
Whenever we take any decision. Or walk down any path. Or enter any battle. We do not refer to our minds. Or our scientific or political minded people. Or our educational standards. Or. Or. Or. We refer to our faqihs. Our elders. And our references. This was our discipline to our imam.(Ali or Husain). And this is our discipline even after his death by abiding to the imam khamini.
Did I miss anything? Am I misunderstanding anything? It is pretty plain to understand that prior to any decision they (HA) take we refer to khamini for the final word. Approval or disapproval. Please correct me if I missed anything.
can't remember suleiman ever worrying about any of the baseless accusations against HA, syria or iran.
seems like he had a very enlightening trip to saudi last month, since he came back he became their biggest fans. must have been the buzzing cultural life down there that made an impression on him.
as for saudi, it's not baseless to say they are behind most of the extremist groups in syria, saudis themselves dont bother denying it anymore.
money, men, weapons, what more should they send before we consider they are a bit responsible for what it done with it?
where is your evidence SIR (Phoenix)? As usual write words and more words to feel important and knowledgeable. Loser!
the1... Suleiman is just another president picked up by the Syrian regime. He also abuses his position through his son in law building a fortune...
Don't be fooled by his moderation. He is powerless...
don't u think he knows better than u ?
Why do u think our christian president is making such statement ?
Why do u think he's defending KSA ?
come on cedre, whenever whoever -be it the president or the patriarch- says anything that doesnt go your way you trash them with the most disrespectful statements without even trying to answer the points.
at least phoenix is being respectful and expressing a reasonable opinion.
The kingdom of terrorism created Al Qaeda, created the Taliban, funded the PLO when they were slaughtering Lebanese for 15 years, created Fatah Al Islam, created/funded terrorists in Chechnya, Kosovo, Syria, Pakistan, Europe, etc.
Bas eh, all this documented evidence is "baseless" for Suleiman the loyal Saudi puppet.
how many terrorists in 9 11 were saoudis ?
president busch then said : I ll take the war to their land and wipe them out,and hope the wipe out wont take long
not weirdly, US attacked 2 main ennemies to iran, saddam and afghanistan, Iran helped militarily the big Satan on both cases.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INJx17Z_fhc
hizbushaitan is desperate especially they know they will be disbanded soon.
even their foreign minister is trying to get a meeting in KSA, their terrorist militia launches accusations against KSA, thus blocking any meeting for their irnian fm boos.
do you think their Iranian master is going to be happy with what his lackey nasrallah said?
the biggest mistake our president made was not helping to get a real secular electoral law based on proportionality
Naharnet why did you delete flamethrowers comment? I disagreed with what he said and was replying to it but what in his comment warranted that it be deleted? It is absurd that you delete comments that are debatable and not malicious!
FT do you honestly believe that Hezbollah could or would integrate in to the army under any president without starting a war? How do you expect this president to demacrate borders when Syria refuses to do so? Is sheeba lebanese or Syrian? Although we all know that it is lebanese, the borders and the Syrians say different. Half the inhabitants say different. The president is neither M8 nor M14. I think every lebanese person should be standing up for the president because he genuinely has lebanons best interest at heart. That is why he is being attacked. Fancy Franjieh saying that he told Assad that he knew sulieman would stab them in the back and that the only reason he became president was because Syria allowed it. We all stand up for him at all times not only when he says something we agree with.
FT : as long as Hezb's lifeline depends entirely on Iran, no one, and certainly not Nasrallah, can claim it's a "lebanese" organisation "independent" of foreign influence.
Hassan cannot claim like he lied yesterday that he is not "influenced" and controlled by Iran.
If you cut Iranian flow of money and weapons, Hezbollah will collapse financially in a couple of months or take over the country to survive economically.
I agree with you that M14 are not visionnaries but you're wrong to believe Aoun or Hassan Nasrallah can build a better future for lebanon.
Regarding this president, I would choose him 1000 times over filth like Lahoud imposed to us by Hezbollah and Syria. And I would flee the country before seeing someone like Aoun take his place.
I prefer a speechless president than someone who sold his soul, values and beliefs for a glimpse of power.
@FT : I never claimed M14 wasn't "influenced". Hassan Nasrallah lied on TV yesterday saying they are not influenced when they are more influenced than any other party.
I disagree with you that M14 are unfit to rule. They have achieved infinitely more for this country than any M8 party. Hezbollah has never brought ANYTHING to lebanon ! And the areas you mention that M14 doesn't control are areas polluted by Assad loyalist and infiltrated terrorists.
Come on ... you;re smarter than that than to make such claims !
I know you don't appreciate this president and agree he hasn't done much. However, I can tell you what he did not do : his family didn't become millionaires overnight. He's not corrupted like Lahoud. He doesn't use his influence for personal gains. he does not answer like a stray dog to Syria. He doesn't use his circle of criminals to conduct or cover crimes across the country... And he's not full of himself like Aoun !
lebanon4ever: we have to stop it with that myth that syria has anything to do with israel not returning land, whether in shebaa or elsewhere.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/un-tells-israel-place-shaba-farms-in-hands-of-unifil-1.225283
the UN told israel that both lebanon and syria officially agreed and all documents confirm it, shebaa farms are lebanese. but israel wont return it because it's too valuable.
@FT
Your absolutely right, for YOUR "truth" makes the majority of the Lebanese sick.
@Mistake : Your president is not Suleiman. Your president (or emperor) is Khomeini ... You do not believe in Lebanon and your entire existence is built on a lie.
Saudi doesn't have to pay Suleiman for him to speak the truth.
Your lying leader Hassan Kezballah accuses Israel or Saudi without any proof whatsoever. If he has evidence, then let him bring it forward or shut up !
This is not a country where a FAKE SAYYED / MILITARY TERRORIST LEADER can make judgments without proof.
We're still waiting for KEZBALLAH's evidence that Israel killed Hariri by the way ...
sure mystic, we know hezbi LIES... they promised to handle their weapoons as soon as lebanon was liberated... still waiting...
now they say they are waiting till palestine is liberated, meaning they ll never join the LEBANESE army...
they promised NEVER to use their weapons against lebanese, then came may 2008...
so hezbis cannot be trusted as their agenda is different from the lebanese one... they just spit on lebanon, its laws and constitutioon , just like you by supporting them!
"they burned Syria and now they want to burn Lebanon too, thats what Sayed Hassan is mentioning"
sure that is what he wants you to believe and did an excellent job at it!
good parrot you are!
let M8 cut all ties with saudi arabia and let's see if iran helps lebanon as much as saudis did!
we would rather destroy the lebanese economy and sink deeper in chaos, exactly what hezbi want to divide and conquer!
I beleive this president is a great president at the wrong time his words of wisdom and modererity are falling on deaf ears