اقتراحان وزاريان: بيان وزاري "بعيد عن 8 و14" أو "لا بيان"

Why all this talk about resistance against Israel to please the HA?
I am not worried about Israel.

I prefer to talk about resistance against the Baath and the pals and Iran's encroachment of our sovereignty. This is true Lebanese patriotic resistance.

israelis daydreaming

The word resistance should be included without associating it with the state, he added.

ie hizbullah not only wants all the lebanese to bend over but to also to kneel down to Nasrallah and Iran.

(1). No ya FT brother, I am with Popeye on this one, and no one needs to bend over either. Actually talking of which, isn't the Lebanese state the very one that is forced to bend over to the wishes and caprices of Hezbollah? You tell me bro, who has caused and is still causing the inertia that is gripping Lebanon but mainly Hezbollah? Look bro, let's come out of hiding from our little finger, the Ostrich mentality must go now, only a strong Lebanese State, with strong constitutional institutions like the LAF et all can guaranty the survival and future of this country and all its people. Our sad predicament started with our single biggest mistake, to institute the PLO to do its fight from Lebanon, now that they're gone, you honestly think it's right to carry on with the stigma with its Lebanese version?

(2). To brother FT. For years all the Lebanese accepted Hezbollah's role of the resistance against Israel, but if you want to tell me that most doubted its essence in truth, as everyone knew that after Israel pulls out, Hezbollah will create sequels to its role, as now we are witnessing. I am one who had doubts over Hezbollah, just as I had doubts over Aoun early on, so, today in 2014, were are we in truth ya akkhi, were? Have we for once tried the State, as in the Stet of the people, for the people and by the people? No khayye, we haven't and we we are NOT allowed yet. The only time, and I'll say this with my head held very high, we had a real state for 22 days, 22 golden days, when Bachir was president elect, the only time. Kif laken if he was president in his full powers, ya wayleh ya wayleh? It's about the state enjoying full powers, not of one emasculated by one militia after the other.

phoenix i usually consider your comments wise and well-thought, but pointing the finger at hezbollah for the inertia and everything that is wrong is a purely partisan accusation that is below you.
when m14 refuses for 10 months to create a cabinet, because they want to exclude hezbollah (who represents a huge chunk of the lebanese population) who is causing the inertia?
HA fought and is fighting existential battles of lebanon, whether in the south with israel or in the east with the takfiris and terrorists. all m14 does is bicker and whine, and stall, and lay blame around without contributing in anything. literally, all they do all day is na2 na2 na2! bi chou cheyfin 7alon?? when qaeda started arriving in lebanon, way before any talk of HA intervention in syria, they were in denial and being all offended that ghosn "dares" warn about it. ( http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/23982 )

when qaeda started kidnapping and killing, they shoved their head in the sand, not a word not an action to deal with it. not the slightest indication that they cared or that they would do something about it.
and when tens of thousands of qaeda and qaeda-affiliated fighters were massed on our border, and threatening to flood us at any moment, HA acted. what did m14ers do? did they try to mediate? try to talk to rebels they have ties with, to ask them guarantees for lebanon? did they take a patriotic stance? no they just sat around and waited for HA to act so they can enjoy their favorite hobby: blame, and whine, and blame.

the way i see it, the only thing holding this country together is HA, and m14 doesnt want a strong state or a strong army. that's just talk that they never materialized into actions. seems to me all they want is a weak hezbollah, and reasons to whine.

the only ones who have a rational reason to erase "resistance" are israelis.

"and when tens of thousands of qaeda and qaeda-affiliated fighters were massed on our border, and threatening to flood us at any moment, HA acted. "

and where were those tens of thousands of fighters amassing at the border? can you name the city, the village mr. propagandist. If you keep repeating the same lies, it does not mean it will become reality.

How about the statement containing the phrase: "Resist bending over to armed thugs and welayat elfaqih"

lol popeye, denying that qusayr and the entire qalamoun range is infested with nusra fighters? that's a very long shot, i doubt anyone will buy it.

now if you please, i was talking to phoenix, not the delusional you. go sell your disinformation elsewhere.

likewise, the only ones who have rational reasons to strengthen the resistancce are Baathists and Iranians.

I await the day when I will read ONE meaningful post, ONE counter argument, ONE credible or mature info from you,-_Flamethrower_- , but alas!