بري: على الدولة احتضان "المقاومين" حتى لو كانوا "قطّاع طرق"

“Israel would then have an excuse to attack the state and its headquarters... If such a proposal happened then the state and the resistance would vanish,” head of the AMAL movement pointed out.

What distorted logic! The only reason Berri does not want the fake resistance under state control is because he is afraid Israel will attack the State....lol. How patriotic, how logical, how convincing! So when Israel attacks the so called resistance, shouldn't the Lebanese army respond, and when it responds what do you think Israel will do? I am afraid Israel does not care about you or your logic. Israel will attack everything that moves in Lebanon when and if it is attacked.

Berri,

That means there is no chance of this armed group ever integrating or being under the control of LAF or the government.

Saying that the Israelis will vanish the government & the armed group. Don't you think this armed group would of been vanished along time ago?

Stop the scare tactics. The armed group remains under the guide of Lebanese government, the lifting of the word terrorist group will be removed by the country's that label it as one.

Let's be logical here shall we.

Berri's logic is:

State+Resistance (under state control) v.s Israel--- Result: both State and Israel will vanish
Resistance (alone not under state control) v.s Israel--- Result: Israel will vanish/Divine Victory

Why can't there be a referendum about the future role of the resistence ? Let the Lebanese themselves decide whether they want to keep Hizbollahs weapons or integrate them in the army ? This would be the best solution !!

NO and a thousand NO to anything remotely connected to the resistance. We are not in a state of war even with Israel. Berri's and HA resistance brought nightmares onto us for the last 15 years and alienated the majority of the Lebanese to the point where they long for the day this nightmare is over. The country's defense lies only with the army. If the argument is the army is not enough/ready to fully protect the country, then ask for a UN/Arab military secondment under chapter 7 of the UN for a period say of 10 years during which the lebanese build and equip an army we all can be proud of. This military force will be under Lebanese army command. The resistance in its present sectarian form and foreign agenda has divided the Lebanese more than it unified them. Enough of fooling ourselves and betraying the future generations...

Berri does have a small point. Last war in 2006 Israel attacked Lebanese Air Force radar bases along the coast of Lebanon but didn't attack the main army bases - as the Lebanese army did not respond Israel didn't hit it hard.

If the army and the resistance are under one umbrella Israel will destroy every Lebanese army base in the country and kill tens of thousands of soldiers in the process in addition to thousands of Hezbollah members not to mention civilians.

If the state controls the resistance, I imagine no attack from Israel will take place as the government will never authorize a strike against Israel anyway thus solving the problem in the first place because Israel won't attack unless its purposefully provoked.

M14 point of view is temporarily correct in this case.

amazing how some people are terrorized from Israel , Israel will do that , Israel will destroy this ,....and so on
Israel has been doing this since 1948 way before the Lebanese resistance was born
btw when there was Palestinian resistance and Lebanon was destroyed for 3 times arabs and some Lebanese blessed this Palestinian resistance and even reached a stage that Yasser Arafat was the real president of Lebanon , why this mouthes that shout now did not say nothing then once nelson mandela said :
apartheid states are doomed to live in fear and to disappear eventually

instead of crying that the army is weak and israel can cause mayham ,its time to give our army the most sophisticated defence weapons
only defencive weapons anti aircraft , anti tank , anti ship missiles , ..
and then we will see if the israelies are mighty enough to dare hit Lebanon with a rose
god bless Lebanon and god bless its army

Keep on defending the Jews ..The truth is they are an enemy of Lebanon.

Lol resistance this, resistance that.
get over yourselves .

Now M14 lads, i think it's time to resign and call Geagea to apologize...

(1). "Berri Says March 8 Will Not Budge an Inch on Resistance, Calls for Agreement". This title should be more like, "Berri Says March 8 Will Not Budge an Inch on the destruction and demise of Lebanon, Calls for Agreement to continue the destruction of the nation".
Clearly this is definitely not about the wellbeing of the nation nor the state, Berri still adopts selfish positions, positions that prioritize the interests of what was known as the resistance and at the expense of the Lebanese State. What is now beginning to emerge is this, that a real tug of war is taking place between those who have the state first, i.e led by president Suleiman and those who simply don't care for the state and its people, as represented by its many ugly heads like Berri.

(2). The stage is wow well set for a political showdown between a side that is not used to being denied to whatever it wants, (the word NO doesn't exist in its dictionary) and a president a lot more stubborn than anticipated, who when he says NO, it means a clear NO. Suleiman has repeatedly shown that he is not one to be drawn red lines, like that notorious one by Sayed Hassan at the onset of the Nahr El Bared battle. God bless you Mr. president, stick to your guns, we are on your side.

Imagine this old furniture that is long overdue for change still leads in Lebanese politics. Imagine that the Lebanese are still being by those same so called independence leaders that took us from one war to the other, both Christians, Shiites, Sunnis, Druze, Aalawites etc..., we are still led by these old fixtures like Berri. What falls off their diner tables can feeds thousands of Lebanese, the people struggle, when these utter crooks live like Nababs, lives are that sinfully sumptuous, bank accounts that are sinful, assets even more sinful. These crooks are not here for the interest of the people, but for their own enrichment and tenure of absolute power. It's a country of herders and sheep.

What a joke ... Is this guy serious, and we still elect him as a parliament head ... i think we need a big shake up .. How can a citizen put a militia's interest over the country and say for the sake of the country we need to keep them .. It is time for this guy and others to retire and go somewhere very far .. beleive me if they leave no one will care ...

Yes, of course, they cannot compromise on placing the "resistance" in the policy statement. Without it, all that Hezbollah does in Lebanon and with its world wide operations loses the imprimatur of legality that the reference in the policy statement gives it. A huge source of money derived from illicit means and sources becomes jeopardized for the oligarchy that is now Hezbollah.

Lebanon has become for Hezbollah what the US Mafia had sought to achieve in Cuba before Castro ruined all of those plans. A sovereign state to protect a world wide criminal enterprise.

isn't berri supposed to be a centrist ? looks like he is the biggest hezballah defender

Good Morning All;
I see three options here:
1). Like stated above, have a national referendum on the policy statement:
A). Do you favor having the Army,People,Resistance in the policy statement
or
B). Country,people,unified defense?
2). Agree to the Army,People,Resistance equation with the stipulation that those that are pressing for this policy commit funds to an account that when Israel (and Israel only) causes damages to any legitimate Lebanese institution, those funds are used for reconstruction projects and only in areas that Hizthrowup has no control of. We know Iran is good for it.
3). Have a referendum on whether Southern Lebanon should be a temporary automomous region with it's own localized governor and Hizthrowup providing police, border patrol, social services and all government functions for that area. UNIFIL will still control the Blue Line to the Litani River and the autonomous region will encompass an agreed upon area stated in the referendum.

27/07/2012 - Le membre du comité fondateur du Courant patriotique libre, l’ingénieur Ziad Abs, a mené sur la LBC une attaque contre chaque composante du gouvernement, où le CPL détient pourtant dix portefeuilles. Le président Berry travaille selon la méthode du fromagisme, c’est ce que nous refusons ».Contrairement à Nabih Berry, « nous n’utilisons pas notre base populaire pour exercer des pressions sur le gouvernement afin d’élargir la part du gâteau qui nous reviendrait.. Quoi qu’il en soit, ce que nous dénonçons, c’est le fromagisme du vol, la corruption et la mainmise sur le butin de l’État, comme le révèlent les cas des caisses du Conseil du Sud et des déplacés du village de Brih, où des parts du budget sont allouées pour des projets jamais réalisés.

Abs s’en est pris ensuite au Hezbollah, dont l’alliance avec le CPL est officialisée depuis la signature du document d’entente en 2006. « Cette alliance avec le camp qui détient des armes nous a fait perdre alors 20 % de notre base chrétienne, nous remarquons aujourd’hui que le Hezbollah n’est pas prêt à abandonner une parcelle de terrain à Lassa (propriété du patriarcat maronite à Jbeil, squattée par les chiites partisans du Hezbollah), ce qui montre que la seule préoccupation du Hezbollah est de ménager les relations chiites-sunnites et les intérêts interchiites, au détriment de la lutte contre la corruption prévue par le document d’entente, ce sont les régions du Hezbollah qui couvent les mafias des moteurs, les réseaux de falsification, de rapts pour rançon et les impôts prélevés à certains commerces, comme on en voit en banlieue sud.»

Il a appelé ainsi le Hezbollah à « s’impliquer dans la réforme et dans le redressement des institutions, faute de quoi il perdrait sa raison d’être et dénaturerait la résistance, que nous continuons tous de saluer ».

I'm sorry lebpatriot

I sense sarcasm, here have a chupachup

Iran Logic-101, Twisted Logic, opium for the masses.... Neither Iran, Syria or H.A. gives a flying kiss about Lebanon, Lebanese army, Lebanese institutions, Lebanese culture... First blow was the alleged 2006 war against Israel which they, go figure, claim victory which decimated Lebanon and now the fighting in Syria. Why doesn't the mighty Iranian army fight instead of H.A.?

Southern

Look outside the box, has Israel shown aggression to Egypt or Jordan?

Oh you mean preserve the armed groups survival?

I understand the benefit to resisting Israel with an irregular army. The problem is the HA is more than resistance and have used their arms inward both literally and as a bargaining tool (intimidation). They also are causing issues by their involvement in Syria. Their involvement in Syria has nothing to do with Israel and is totally sectarian. Between this and using their arms inward over telephone lines, they have lost credibility as a resistance. They forgot to be humble.

I don't agree with the speakers excuse. It's a lame one. But I think he only gave it simply because he cannot offer the real one which is: it's unknown where the loyalty of half of the state is given to.

Israel has more than 200 nuclear bombs that could erase the 250 million arabs in 30 minutes, and Berri wants to give lessons of resistance ? I am not afraid to die to protect my country, but I cannot be UNREALISTIC and menace Goliath all day long. Moreover, I menace the guy next door and my apartment is broken all over. I do not have windows, no water, I did not pay my electricity bill, I have people I do not know who installed themselves in my apartment, and they are many. Worse is that I have two kids who deal drugs at home.

They should stop their cinema act and stop treating all lebanese as idiots. All know that the hashish business does the rules in lebanon. 5 million cigarettes of Hashish were smoked daily in Egypt that went from bekaa to shebaa farms to Israel to Egypt. But since 5 years, knesset green party members are complaining. The 100 grams of hash in bekaa is $50 and in Israel was 200 in 2009, today it is $1500. Egypt closed the tunnels in Gaza since Morsi and the Hash stopped.
The israelis found themselves as consumers so they started planting weed themselves. Who should nag now? the guys in control of the bekaa.
The only REALISTIC attitude when David wages war on Goliath, is when david is a friend of goliath and simulating.

2- Israel has more than 200 nuclear bombs that could erase the 250 million arabs in 30 minutes, and Berri wants to give lessons of resistance ? I am not afraid to die to protect my country, but I cannot be UNREALISTIC and menace Goliath all day long. Moreover, I menace the guy next door and my apartment is broken all over. I do not have windows, no water, I did not pay my electricity bill, I have people I do not know who installed themselves in my apartment, and they are many. Worse is that I have two kids who deal drugs at home.

3-They should stop their cinema act and stop treating all lebanese as idiots. All know that the hashish business does the rules in lebanon. 5 million cigarettes of Hashish were smoked daily in Egypt that went from bekaa to shebaa farms to Israel to Egypt. But since 5 years, knesset green party members are complaining. The 100 grams of hash in bekaa is $50 and in Israel was 200 in 2009, today it is $1500. Egypt closed the tunnels in Gaza since Morsi and the Hash stopped.
The israelis found themselves as consumers so they started planting weed themselves. Who should nag now? the guys in control of the bekaa.
The only REALISTIC attitude when David wages war on Goliath, is when david is a friend of goliath and simulating.

It is that same lame uneducated attitude you carry all you lives. If I am not waging war on Israel does not imply being 'their' anything. I will close the border, especially the hashish parade, and cement a huge wall. AND I will take care of my country and build it from zero, with tribunals, law, education, health, etc etc. Excuse me but your dignity to me , is called stupidity, especially that it has been decades rolling. So keep your dignity in your pocket, and build a country with education.

Hello. And Bye.