معلومات عن لقاءات "سرية" بين سلفيين سوريين ومسيحيين لبنانيين

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يقوم سلفيون سوريون معارضون فروا من سوريا إلى لبنان هربا من النظام، باتصالات حثيثة في الوقت الحالي مع قيادات وشخصيات مسيحية، ويعقدون لقاءات توصف بـ"السرية" يشرحون خلالها وجهة نظرهم، ويطرحون رؤيتهم لنظام جديد في سوريا يتبنى فكرة "دولة مدنية، ديمقراطية، تعددية"، بحسب ما أكدت مصادر مطلعة لـصحيفة "الشرق الأوسط".

ورأت المصادر أن السلفيين السوريين يأخذون مخاوف مسيحيي لبنان والغرب منهم بعين الاعتبار، ويعتبرون أن النظام القائم شوه صورتهم وأثار الذعر منهم، على غير وجه حق، مما انعكس سلبا على المواقف الدولية تجاه الثورة السورية.

وأفاد المصدر المطلع أن "هذه اللقاءات شملت سياسيين سنة ومسيحيين بشكل خاص، لكن التركيز هو على لقاء القيادات المسيحية".

وأوضح المصدر أن "الأمر لا يتوقف على لقاء واحد مع كل جهة، بل ثمة جهات مسيحية عقد معها سلفيون سوريون ما يزيد على 5 لقاءات، ليصبح الأمر أشبه بحوارات مفتوحة تجري بين الطرفين». وتحدث المصدر عن «ارتياح مسيحي لما سمعوه من طروحات جديدة، في خطاب السلفيين، لم يعهدوها من قبل».

وعلمت "الشرق الأوسط" أن "سياسيين مسيحيين لبنانيين ساعدوا السلفيين على عقد لقاءات مع أميركيين وأوروبيين لشرح وجهة نظرهم الجديدة، لحث الغربيين على اتخاذ موقف حاسم من النظام، دون خوف من بدائل إسلامية إقصائية تسعى للتفرد بالأقليات والاقتصاص منهم".

وإذ يرفض المصدر المطلع نفي أو تأكيد اجتماع السلفيين بممثلين عن حزب الكتائب أو تسمية أي جهة بعينها التقوها، نظرا لدقة الموضوع، يقول: إن "مسلمين ومسيحيين يتعاونون لإنجاح هذه اللقاءات".

ويضيف: "السلفيون يتفهمون مخاوف البطريريك الماروني بشارة الراعي، التي عبر عنها أثناء زيارته الأخيرة إلى باريس، كما أنهم استمعوا جيدا إلى ما قاله الرئيس أمين الجميل ونجله سامي الجميل في الإعلام حول ضرورة طمأنة أصحاب الثورات للأقليات، لذلك فإن تحركاتهم تصب في هذا الاتجاه تماما".

وكشفت الصحيفة عينها أن " لقاءات السلفيين السوريين شملت أيضا سلفيين لبنانيين، حيث دارت نقاشات بين الطرفين لم تتسم بـود كبير، لكن التنسيق مع سلفيي لبنان ليس الأولوية الآن، بحسب ما قيل لنا، بقدر ما هو تعريف من لا يعرفون بأن «السلفية لا تعني بال".

ويعتبر السلفيون المعارضون الموجودون بشكل مؤقت في لبنان أنهم يمثلون شريحة تستحق أخذها بعين الاعتبار في محافظات كثيرة في سوريا، لذلك فهم يتكلمون وفي تقديرهم أن لهم وزنهم على الأرض.

ويؤكد السلفيون السوريون المعارضون في لبنان أنهم شعروا بارتياح تجاه كلام السفيرة الأميركية مورا كونيللي أثناء زيارتها، منذ يومين، لوزير الدفاع اللبناني فايز غصن، حيث أكدت على "الأهمية التي توليها الولايات المتحدة لدور الجيش اللبناني في حماية الأعضاء المنتسبين إلى المعارضة السورية المقيمين في لبنان". وهو ما قد يخفف الضغط عنهم خلال الأيام المقبلة. على ما أشارت إليه "الشرق الأوسط".

التعليقات 35
Thumb jabalamel 10:46 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

salafists talking about "“civil, democratic and plural” state" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah.......

Thumb jabalamel 10:50 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

.ahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahah

how come an nahar comes in situation to publish something like that?

Thumb jabalamel 10:55 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

...ahhaahahhaahhaahhaahahahhahahahahahaha.....

Thumb geha 11:02 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

it is clear it hurts m8 to see their world crumble around them :)
they tried to freighten us of the salafis but when the truth is coming out that thses same salafis want a democratic syria ( like in turkey), the hizbushaitan followers are upset :)
M8: the countdown for your oppression of the Lebanese people has started.

Thumb thepatriot 11:10 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

We'll take our chances!
Anything is better than the Assad butchers!

Default-user-icon knight templar (ضيف) 11:19 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

@geha Freighten!! lol is it coming by sea HAHAHA

Thumb jabalamel 11:39 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

the zionist information war department will be quite happy with salafist ruling syria

Thumb will_rogers 11:58 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

However it may turn out, anything other than the "Shabbiha" and "Basij"
murderers is worth trying.

Thumb geha 12:12 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

@night
thank you for correcting typing errors :) normally this is the only place where we type without revision for mistakes.

Default-user-icon knight templar (ضيف) 15:19 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

@geha welcome but it's actually knight & not night big difference loooooooool

Default-user-icon knight templar (ضيف) 15:25 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

@geha welcome but it's actually knight & not night big difference loooooooool

Default-user-icon MUSTAPHA O. GHALAYINI (ضيف) 15:33 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

i understand the people who have the C.N.L..(computer nervous laughing),it is another way of panicking because salafis..wahabies.. farsis...fundamentalists from any sect are very dangerous deseases and viruses directly AFFECTING the brain.
i am afraid that the syrian symptoms are overflawing,but
BILAD EL ARZ WILL PREVAIL NO DOUBT ABOUT IT

Default-user-icon Borat (ضيف) 15:56 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

who is this jabalamel. he must suffer some form of retardation... he sounds a bit like Wiam Wahab

Thumb jabalamel 16:23 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

lol...aragorn mumbled something...mowaten you understand him?

aragorn try in arabic...if you know it. some people it's similar to hebrew, but really it's not.

Default-user-icon juan (ضيف) 17:19 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

ha ha ha ha ha it's realy funny, right Jabalamel, peoples like you can only talk, like your Master Bachar and beefore him his father, but since 1967 the golan has been occupied by israel and nothing is happening, is'nt that strange, were is the Resistance???????????? poor IDIOTS

Thumb canaanite 17:35 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

We'll take down one Tyranny at a time..

If Islamists come to power in Syria and threaten Lebanon again, we will take them down then too...

But for now, its Hezbollah and Assad that needs toppling...

Thumb mrbrain 18:40 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

Correlation between sectarian movement and religious sects is more than obvious...Still most of the Lebanese people are affected by the empty ideals of the Sectarian leaders...
Politics= Every political party taking care of his own interest.. This would be fine in a country where sectarianism virus is in the sleeping mode!!!!
Pfffffffffffff
MrBrain

Thumb Marc 19:05 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

I long for the day when religion and politics are totally two separate things in Lebanon . . . .

Default-user-icon Salloumeria (ضيف) 19:10 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

This deserves the biggest friggin heheheheheheheheh. Those so-called Christians are the Christian Sunnis of Hariri Mafia Thugs & Co., SARL, i.e. their soulless balloons are filled with Sunni fart. hehehehehehehehe

Missing realist 20:06 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

HABAL AMEL, why do you hate sunnis so much!?!?!? tell me?? why are you allowed to have your mini islamic iranian state in da7iye and sunis are not allowed to have islamic representation?? tell me ?? i am against both suni and she3i fundamentalists by the way. But let me tell you that you are a NAZI SUNI HATER, that is the truth!! and you would not mind if your BASHAR uses chemical weapons to kill all the sunis and the rest would be slaves, why dont you be brave enough and say it !!! newsflash: the sunis are the vast majority in the Arab world and you have to make peace with them, Be smart like nabih beri, you are a mere idiot.

Default-user-icon marie (ضيف) 20:08 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

I hope the salafist will put an end to you and your likes the shits...all the way to persia

Default-user-icon baassa (ضيف) 20:10 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

habal ahbal kamel, please leave us alone and go back to IRAN

Default-user-icon John from Koura (ضيف) 20:11 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

The majority of Syrians (including Sunnis) do not want a religious Salafist state, just like the Majority of Lebanese (including Shittes) do not want a religious Shitte state in Lebanon. Stop this sectarian talk, because it only benefits the Zionist enemy.

Default-user-icon marie (ضيف) 20:17 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

habal hamel your days are coming soon, just be ready for the BIG one SOOON

Default-user-icon Christopher Rushlau (ضيف) 20:29 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

Two things about Hezbullah in Lebanon. They are Shiites who are the majority and screwed out of their rights (by the parties who cooperate with Israel and the US), and they can actually fight to defend Lebanese territory (unlike the parties who cooperate with Israel and the US).
They are the defacto government, they are the dejure government, and they are acting like a government.
If you want to help them, change the confessional voting system so their regime can be formalized.

Default-user-icon Eliya (ضيف) 21:15 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

No Christian "figures" in Syria will meet with these religious fanatics, only Lebanese "Christian" figures will meet with them. For money, they will become Wahabis or anything you want them to be.

Thumb geha 22:22 ,2011 تشرين الأول 06

@christopher
surprise: according to all census, the sunnis are the mjority in Lebanon.

Missing realist 00:19 ,2011 تشرين الأول 07

Christopher, the suni voters in lebanon fyi are more than the she3a ones, and since lebanon is a mini-fake state you would need to open your small blind eyes a little and look towards Syria/beyond and do some math and you will soon figure out who is the vast majority in the Arab world (90 percent sunis). Why do you wana make enemies with all these people? dont the christians of lebanon work in the gulf? how many work in iran?? Didn't the christians live hundreds of years amongst the muslims in the Arab world? we need to make peace man, wake up and smell the coffee.

Thumb jabalamel 00:50 ,2011 تشرين الأول 07

now i will summarize the latest halucinations from zionist information war department:

1.someone presumed that i hate salafists and than asked me why i hate sunnis.
therefore, all sunnis are salafists
2. syria is full of basij and other type of iranian murderers (iran iran iran iran...) they are killing shitload of syrians to preserve assad regime which is opposed by every syrian in universe but only several thousands protest in every city. the rest, including the 400 000 soldiers in syrian army, rather stay home and watch it on tv.
3. bashar is my friend. looks like i have more friend that i knew. bashar also sold golan although he was little kid when it was occupied.
4. the national task of glorious lebanese resistance is to free golan (by the way, you asked me where is resistance, it's all around you idiot)
5. also, coming back to bashar, he has so much chemical weapons, that he can kill ALL the sunnis, especially the ones in indonesia, turkey and pakistan

Thumb jabalamel 01:01 ,2011 تشرين الأول 07

6. nazi sunni hater in iran mini state. (iran iran iran iran ...oh we had persia also). someone explain me the nazi sunni hater.
7.sunnis are majority in lebanon which is know by the fact that there is not majority and no major sect has more than 30 (+-3%).
8. the zionist information war department can expect to get nobel prize in medicine for inventing the computer nervous laughing disorder. i guess they know from personal experience what is that.

and finally., if we presume that caananite is lebanese most probably from anti-lebanese forces, his halucination is that he and his miltia of 10 will first disarm the resistance and than topple assad regime.

Default-user-icon Ariel_Sharone (ضيف) 04:09 ,2011 تشرين الأول 07

Welcome to all salafist in the Jewish state, our doors are open to help in any way, shape or forms the Syrian citizens running away from the butcher, after all we are human beings and since Bashar killed Mughnieh, his role is over.

Thumb canaanite 05:44 ,2011 تشرين الأول 07

@jabalamel..

the only person hallucinating is your party and your "divine victory"...

YOU WILL BE DISARMED SOON ENOUGH

Thumb ado.australia 05:47 ,2011 تشرين الأول 07

Geha...firstly, the last census occurred in 1932 and Maronites were the largest minority. To be the majority,they must be more than 50% of the population. Every modern estimate, from the u.n to the interior ministry, puts Shiites a couple of % higher than sunnis @ around 28%. If you and ur mustaqbul/salafist stooges add the Palestinians, than yes you will be the largest minority... Never the majority.

Thumb geha 08:36 ,2011 تشرين الأول 07

@ado
first off FYI I am a christian :) but that does not blind me to the degree to close my eyes to see.
secon, review your figures, as according to current electoral figures, sunnis numbers are higher than shiite numbers, eventhough the latter birth rate is high :)
anyway, I agree that all reliogns in Lebanon are minorities after all, who should be able to live together under one armed force: the government armed forces, and not arm themselves against others.

Missing peace 11:34 ,2011 تشرين الأول 07

what is the difference with aoun kissing the hezbollah????

same thing, christians and extremists....