عون يدعو مناصريه الى التظاهر الجمعة: إذا تعذر انتخاب رئيس من الشعب فليقر قانون انتخاب نسبي
Read this story in Englishدعا رئيس تكتل "التغيير والاصلاح" النائب ميشال عون مناصريه الى التظاهر الجمعة المقبل معلنا انه لن يشارك في تظاهرة الغد التي "تعمم الفساد على جميع السياسيين"، متطرقا في الوقت عينه الى موضوع الانتخابات الرئاسية قائلا "إذا تعذر انتخاب رئيس من الشعب فليقر قانون انتخابي نسبي من ثم تجرى انتخابات الرئاسة".
ودعوة عون لمناصريه الى التظاهر جاءت في مؤتمر صحفي عقده من الرابية صباح الجمعة، و"ذلك "لتأكيد المطالبة بالاصلاح والمشاركة ومحاربة الفساد وبكل شيء يوصلنا الى نتائج ونهاية حميدة، وخصوصا بعد ان استفاق الشعب". بحسب ما قال.
وأضاف "اننا ننزل الى الشارع ساعة نشاء، و الشعارات المرفوعة مأخوذة منا"، من دون أن يحدد مكان التظاهر، لافتا الى أن "بيانا بهذا الصدد سيصدر عن التيار".
وأردف "سننزل لوحدنا الجمعة ولكن من يريد فلينضم الينا".
وتوقف عون عند مفهوم الشرعية والقانونية، لافتا الى أنه "غالبا ما يتم اللبس بين الشرعية والقانونية ويختلف المفهومان عن بعضهما".
وهنا اوضح أن "الشرعية تؤمن للمنتخبين السلطة وجزء من الحكم التي يستمدوها من شعبهم ولا من حاكم يمكن ان يحكم من دون الاعتراف بهذه السلطة".
واعتبر "الحاكم الذي لا يتمتع بالشعبية الشرعية لا يمكن ان يحكم لذلك تعتمد الديموقراطيات الغربية على الانتخابات الشفافة من الشعب وفي حال حصل التزوير فالشعب الذي اعطى الشرعية يمكنه ان يطعن بها".
وأعرب ريس التيار عن تأييده لما "شهدناه في الايام المنصرمة من تظاهرات وشعارات، لكنه رأى أنه "وان كانت المطالب محقة ولكن تبقى الامور الاساسية هي مواجهة أسباب المرض واذا أردنا معالجة المرض علينا أن نعالج أسبابه وأولها انتخاب رئيس".
عليه، دعا عون الى "انتخاب رئيس من الشعب مباشرة وذلك اذا اردنا أن ننتخب رئيس قبل اصدار قانون انتخابي جديد"، لكنه ومن جهة أخرى طالب باقرار قانون انتخابي جديد وفقا للنظام النسبي ويؤمن المناصفة العادلة، إذ تعذر انتخاب الرئيس من الشعب".
وردا على سؤال قال عون "نحن لا نستقيل من الحكومة ولم نبق حتى الآن لو كان هناك إمكانية لتشكيل حكومة جديدة"، مضيفا "لو نقدر ان نؤلف حكومة أخرى لكنا خرجنا منها من فترة طويلة".
م.ن.
President Aoun is right the Muslim majority should elect the president, legitimacy is given to the authorities by the majority of the people!
Eagle, I very much believe that Mowaten is not alone in the trolling, I believe that Mystic and Southern, to mention but a few are doing some serious if not massive trolling. But personally I find that childish and stupid of them, even a mature 6 year old won't bother doing this, but this is what I always said, people suffering from tunnel-vision can see far.
I now can see the desperation in the acts of the M8 followers of this forum, I mean look at how they are thumbing themselves up and how they are thumbing us down. I mean look at our rising star Southern with almost 40 ups, and everyone who opposed him with as many downs. You people are sick, childish and definitely screwed up there, but you see, you idiots are doing us a big favor, since this is the measure of your intelligence, then glad am I that you do not rule this country, not now, not ever. All your arguments about defending minorities here and there are sheer propaganda consumed only by fools. But sadly, the bigger fools are the people doing the mod of this forum, whose auto system is being abused once more, and this despite our repeated warnings. A dormant team, that reflects a dormant parliament as usual.
mowaten could not bare to see how he was caught trolling with his fake accounts so he mass reported my comment and got it deleted! Here it is again and enjoy reading it over and over again.
"hello phoenix; mowaten never trolls ever. He is the one always with morals and sets the example. Here are a few postings I saved and you judge for yourself what is going on.
_mowaten_
is that a pathetic mantra you keep repeating because you have nothing else to say?
_mowaten_
You must understand Sophia that people like humble need to repeat these mantras constantly to convince themselves that they're somehow true... Zombies brainwashing themselves.
then here is one that links it all together:
eukaliptuz.
Who wants to live with a sermeye like you Humble, who keeps repeating the same mantra like a broken toy?
mantra....mowaten.....mantra..... hahaha!
mowaten= eukaliptuz.
جملة مقولات ساقها عون منذ عودته من المنفى عام 2005، وخاض تحت ستارها حربه وحرب حلفائه على «الطائف«. ألم يقل الجنرال إن تيار المستقبل يأتي بنوابٍ مسيحيين، الأمر الذي اعتبره منافياً لأصول «المناصفة«؟ ألم يعتبر الجنرال أن الأغلبية الشيعية تأتي برئيس للبرلمان وبأن الأغلبية السنية تأتي برئيس للحكومة، وبالتالي يحق للمسيحيين أن يأتوا برئيسهم كما تفعل الطوائف الأخرى؟ الجنرال الذي تحدّث عن كلّ ذلك، هو نفسه الذي يطالب اليوم بانتخابه من الشعب ليأتي بصوت حليفه الشيعي. كيف يرضى، مَن يطالب بحق المسيحيين في انتخاب رئيسهم ونوابهم، أن يأتي بالصوت المسلم؟
بالفيديو – منشد “حزب الله”: إما المثالثة وإما الخراب
منشد “حزب الله” علي بركات المتخصص بإثارة النعرات المذهبية محلياً وبضرب علاقة لبنان مع الدول العربية، والذي كان اوقف لشهر ونيف عقب نشيد “ارهابك يا سعودية” وسارع فور خروجه من سجن النبطية مطلع العام الحالي الى شكر “قيادتي “حزب الله” وحركة “امل” و “أشرف واطهر الناس” عبر حسابه الرسمي على الفايسبوك بعدما كلف “حزب الله” المحامي حسين محيدلي بالدفاع عنه، المنشد بركات يحلّل في السياسة وفي الحراك الشعبي أخيراً!!!
http://www.lebanese-forces.com/2015/08/28/ali-baraket-3/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=53&v=z2cal_6D3Lg
somebody needs to put this criminal out of his misery and put an end to his wicked life.
if this religious zealot aoun becomes president then we will have weddings in Lebanon similar to those his siblings in iran have:
بالصور.. زواج في إيران العريس 14 عاماً والعروسة 10
المشرعون سمحوا لمن أعمارهم أقل من السن القانونية بالزواج شريطة موافقة الولي
http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/last-page/2015/08/27/بالصور-زواج-بإيران-العريس-14-عاما-والعروسة-10.html
southern, your sectarian hate for KSA and sunnis does not negate the fact the wedding took place in Iran, does it now?
ok forget the source you don't like, here is more:
"Iran passes a law allowing men to marry their 13-year-old adopted daughters just as the country's new president touts himself as a moderate"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2442270/Iran-passes-marriage-law-allowing-men-wed-13-year-old-adopted-daughters.html
In Iran, you can marry your 13-year-old adopted child
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/28416/in-iran-you-can-marry-your-13-year-old-adopted-child/
Photos showing a 14-year-old boy getting married to his 10-year-old partner in Iran have gone viral on social media.
http://mamul.am/en/news/71484
southern, I condemn hezbollah and its takfiri terror everyday and you know that. What more do you expect me to do?;)
Southern, (with the added dots and dashes), now we are getting confirmation of how hamstrung you've become, this ailment of yours, one of them being tunnel-vision is making you post things that are so so distant from reality and the truth. Quite frankly, you are no longer worthy of any serious response, but to give you a gentle fraternal tap on the head and tell you, "Enta ba3dak ktir shaterr". Bi 3inak Allak.
Southern, you said and I quote, "@phoenix:
my statement was directed to e-d upon his question when he asks "What more do you expect me to do?;)" so, please try to coordinate your thoughts and contrast properly, you may then change your poetic writing", end of quote. Thank you for making me smile and laugh too dear Southern, it's been a tiring week for me, so making me laugh was a good thing. Now, irrespective of it all, I have a feeling that you will soon need to add another dash to your alias.
Dear General of Generals:
are you aware I live in Australia, born in Australia, don't speak Arabic and my great grandfather hassoun bless his soul told me all I know about you and Sayyid Hassan.
we insist hezbollah disarm whether aoun insists on a president elected by the people or not.
....only 2 people are working for Lebanon as we speak.
General Aoun & Walid Jumblat....the rest pffttttt.
Reform!
Where is z Electricity & Water? Past Ministers were all crooks! But now under reform --it is even worth!
***How on hell u 're promising reforms!
Take reform and you know what you ca do with it..! The current minister of power told the Lebanese people he needs another 1 billion dollars to fix the electricity. The power sector in Lebanon has cost the treasury $57 billion in the last 15 years alone and yet Somalia has a better grid than we do. Corrupt you and your reformist party are and will always be.
(1). Mr. Aoun, or better known as the Claoun, this is my response to you: That you are a selfish SOB who is ready to cheat no matter what. People know that by wanting to do the vote from the street, that you are aiming for the Shiite votes, whom you still count on numbers. You are also hoping to get your soup mixed up with Syrian votes and any donkey you can get along the bandwagon. I am one willing to take your challenge, and you know why ya 7arameh? Because on two occasions, the street has defeated you and your allies, thereafter you people cheated again to rob your opponents of their victories. But you see ya Claoun, you are a very annoying person: You know that Lebanon is under a terrible situation, the street, of yeah, the street wants rotten bast*rds like you out. You know that it is people like you that have caused all our problems, yet you have the cockiness, the arrogance and the indecency to call for street votes?
(2). Aoun. Wlak leysh, did you manage to get anything more than 1200 last time? This time you want to bring your Shiite friends to get you president even if you people had to burn Lebanon again? Wlak ya Claoun, you are behaving as if everything was perfectly normal, but I am one who very much believes that you have lost it ya khityar il mrit, enta we7ed mtakhtakh wou m3affan. You do not have one bit of decency to allay our multiple problems, you ya traitor, you the man who collapsed the only resistance to Syria and them got to embrace all those you one upon a time insulted daily, you have done worse, you are licking their arses daily, is the presidency so valuable to you or do you really want to be emperor on a burning nation?
(3). Aoun. Mr. Claoun, I can assure, you, we are trying to build a state of laws in the fullest respect of the constitution, Hezbollah has emboldened you to break the law and made your sickness even more acute, this time you will break no law, no constitution and you will never see the seat. Your Sayed hero friend hiding under ground will remain there for possibly all his life and you will die witnessing a new Lebanon created. Il 3ama bi albak shou bala mokh.
Thanks Justin, this Claoun is beyond description, I have never in my life seen anything like him. He bewilders even the hardiest of us. You come to the point where you feel that yeah, we've seen it all coming from him, only to see him push the sh*t button even further. I am desirous of keeping the decorum, but really, this man is one who is more evil than Satan himself, he won't stop at anything, I am sure that even when on his deathbed, he will still ask his advisers if they can exhaust his last wish, that they take him to Baabda and take a picture of him on the seat. Of all Clowns in the world Aoun is the last person who should ever dare talk of Baabda, let him at least consider how he left it last time it was entrusted to him. Heyda we7ed bala damir.
Aoun's assertions notwithstanding, it *is* ALL the political class that needs trashing and him at the head of it. It is shameful for Aoun, who has made a 180 degree turn from his original positions via HA, to try now and claim the higher ground. He does not have it.
He is still clinging to the ever remote chance of ascending to the Presidency, he will not get there no matter what he tries.
Just consider his preaching about democracy and that he will show us all how it's done by enforcing elections for FPM presidency - then - he pushes Basil down his party's throat!!
Democracy and reform are a far cry from Aoun's practices as events have amply proved.
I hope that the You Stink and Accountability movements do not fall for Aoun and HA's trap and attempts to hijack our anger at ALL the political class by maintaining their secular demonstrations and keep their lazer focus on the demands of most of us Lebanese which are aimed at ousting the de facto political class and replacing them with those that work for the people - really work for the people.
None of our existing political trash will ever be willing to give up their piece of the pie and the status quo, we Lebanese must struggle to gain back our nation and true sovereignty.
Min-Canada, tomorrow Saturday 29 August 2015, many cities will join us in solidarity, Montreal is one of them. We hope to receive a lot more support during the coming weeks, here in Beirut, we will be in Martyrs Square, starting from 5 PM Beirut time, whoever is in the country, please join us, let's make our voices heard.
I now have come to believe that Aoun is brain-dead and that he is being controlled remotely 100%. All his masters need is his ugly face, that cacophonous voice of his, and yes, why not, occasionally that blood-stained dirty hand of his to gesticulate a little, if datedly to help convince that he is still alive. What a pile of rubbish, honest.
Sure, why not, Baroud is an excellent candidate, a decent young man who could change the mould of Lebanon's politics way into forward. Dimianos Kattar too is another good candidate.
Aoun is one sick demented delusional narcissist. God help Lebanon and the people still stuck in there.
@phoenix1. Your express the thoughts of more than 98% of christians, all Sunni and?% of Shia. Thank you
AOUN does not mind to be the last Christian president as far as he can succeed to put his dirty bum on the seat even if it is only for hours. However I am sure he is a loser even with a direct fair election from people (which I am against not because of fear but because it is not in the constitution).
I hope the "youStink" group are honest enough by not promising AOUN to contribute in his demo next Friday (to show larger crowd) in exchange for his hidden contribution with the demo of this weekend.
Hopefully I am wrong but it is known that FPM are famous in any dirty agreement to falsely swell their presence.
Peace (guest) thank you for very good posts, rest assured, they are being read. On the FPM, it's a party used to cheat, reflecting the nature of its inceptor Aoun. Now he wants to send people to the streets just hoping to show that he has support, in truth he is trying to piggy-back, but he has been nibbed before he even sneezed. Aoun the Claoun is now a well-known quantity, I cannot use the word quality because there's none to attach to him, nor to his party of lies and fabrications.
Aoun, we have something called a Constitution and an elected body to make changes to the constitution. Put your efforts in electing a new parliament and if you are the most popular guy then your parliamentary majority will lead the way in changing the constitution. Aoun thinks a Republic is a sand box for him to create whatever his fancy dreams of. We already saw how democratic Basil's election was as the new FPM potato head.
I fully understand to stop offensive comments. But i don't understand why my realistic and very reserved comments are ignored. Is there a subjective or objective criteria with your management.
I am a Lebanese citizen and I have the full right to express my opinion in a non offensive vocabulary.
Claoun wants a president, but it has to be him or no one else. Claoun wants a new army chief, but it has to be Roukoz his sil or no one else. Aoun wants a replacement for him at the FPM but it has to be his sil Gebran or now one else, Claoun wants a CEO at OTV but is has to be his daughter and no one else, wou ba3dkoun bit 2oulou Esla7 wou teghyirr? Aoun does not believe in democracy, Aoun is just Aoun is just another circus owner and all the clowns must come from family stock, simple.