حديث عن احالة بند المحكمة من البيان الوزاري الى هيئة الحوار الوطني

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رجحت معلومات نقلتها صحيفة "اللواء" احتمال الوصول الى مخرج يقضي باحالة بند المحكمة الدولية الخاصة بلبنان من البيان الوزاري الى هيئة الحوار الوطني، باعتباره نقطة خلافية، جانب موضوع السلاح.

وكشفت الصحيفة ان ممثلي "حزب الله" ورئيس تكتل "التغيير والاصلاح" النائب ميشال عون أكدوا خلال جلسة لجنة صياغة البيان الوزاري أنس الاربعاء، تحفظهم على ايراد اي اشارة الى المحكمة، لسبب ابلغوه صراحة لرئيس الحكومة نجيب ميقاتي، وهو ان حكومة الوحدة الوطنية "طارت" بسبب هذه المحكمة، ولذلك لا يجوز للحكومة التي جاءت بعدها ان تتبنى نصاً لحكومة سقطت من اجله، وانه اذا كان لا بد من نص يجنب الرئيس ميقاتي الاحراج فليكن باستبدال المحكمة بعبارة "العدالة والحقيقة"•

وتضيف المعلومات، انه لهذا السبب تجنب الرئيس ميقاتي او اختار ابقاء الفقرة الخاصة بالمحكمة خارج مسودة مشروع البيان، وتركها لاتصالات يجريها مع المعنيين، ولا سيما مع رئيس مجلس النواب نبيه بري والعماد عون و"حزب الله"، بالتوازي مع اجتماعات اللجنة للتوافق على صيغة توازن بين التزامات لبنان الدولية واستقراره الداخلي".

وكشف مصدر وزاري مشارك في اللجنة أن اللجنة لم تتطرق إلى موضوع المحكمة الدولية لأنها في الأصل غير موجودة في المسودة، موضحاً أن الرئيس ميقاتي قد وعد بتقديم نص لكنه لم يقدمه إلى الآن وعندما يحصل ذلك نناقشه.

وقال: "اذا انتهينا اليوم من مناقشة النص المعدل وإذا أصبح نص المحكمة جاهزاً يبقى أمام اللجنة جلسة أو جلستين على ابعد حد قبل رفع مشروع البيان إلى مجلس الوزراء".

ورجح المصدر ان يصار نتيجة هذه الاتصالات الى توافق على صيغة انشائية تحفظ ماء وجه الرئيس ميقاتي ضمن طائفته، معربا في الوقت عينه عن ثقته بأن الصيغة ستغلب في نهاية المطاف كفة العدالة على كفة المحكمة، بمعنى انه حتى ولو ذكرت المحكمة بالاسم فستكون مقرونة ومشروطة بمفردة العدالة.

وتوقع أحد الوزراء لصحيفة "السفير" أن يُتَنَاوَل موضوع المحكمة على اساس صيغة "لا تعادي المجتمع الدولي ولا تستفز أي طرف داخلي ايضا، وهنا تكمن براعة الرئيس ميقاتي في اجتراح مثل هذه الصيغة".

وقالت مصادر وزارية بارزة لصحيفة "النهار" انه لم يتم التوافق على هذا البند بين هذه القوى مع ان مسودة البيان تتضمن عنوانا أساسيا عن المحكمة، مشيرةً الى ان هذه القضية لا يمكن تجاوزها مع أن بند تمويلها قد لا يكون موضع بحث في الوقت الحاضر.

والرأي الغالب داخل الحكومة، في انتظار الاتصالات الجارية، بحسب مصادر "النهار"، هو أنه لا يمكن الخروج عن التزامات لبنان الدولية وخصوصا في ضوء المواقف التي يتبلغها رئيس الوزراء من السفراء الغربيين الذين، مع تأكيد ثقتهم بميقاتي من حيث ما يعلنه لهذه الناحية، يشددون على أهمية التزام لبنان القرارات الدولية ولا سيما منها تلك المتعلقة بالمحكمة الدولية والتي تشكل المفصل الاساسي في تعامل الدول مع الحكومة.

لذا تعتبر المصادر أنه لا يمكن لبنان ان يقدم على أي خطوة ناقصة في هذا الموضوع لان من شأن ذلك أن يؤدي الى وضع الحكومة مبكرا في دائرة الاستهداف الخارجي وقد يعرض ذلك لبنان لمخاطر سياسية واقتصادية.

وذكرت أن ميقاتي يكرر التشديد أمام السفراء على الموقف المبدئي الذي أعلنه منذ اليوم الأول بأن لبنان ملتزم القرارات الدولية والمحكمة.

واستغربت ما يحاول البعض اشاعته عن سعي رئيس الوزراء الى تأخير البحث في فقرة المحكمة في انتظار صدور القرار الاتهامي قائلة انه يستعجل انجاز البيان الوزاري وعقد اجتماعات يومية للجنة الوزارية منعاً لجدالات عقيمة، علماً أن أحداً لا يعرف الموعد الحقيقي لصدور القرار الاتهامي.

التعليقات 14
Default-user-icon Beiruti (ضيف) 15:33 ,2011 حزيران 23

Well now, this is the rub, isn't it? The STL is irreversible and irretrevable. It is done, the horse is out of the barn and regardless of which veil Aoun and Nasrallah try to put over it, regardless of their attempts to call their rejection of the Court by any other name, the Court exists and it will continue to exist for as long as the Security Council of the United Nations exists.

The STL exists by the consent of the Lebanese Republic outside of the jurisdiction of any Lebanese government. It exists under the authority of the United Nations.

Nasrallah's "evidence" that Israel is the true perpetrator of the assassination of Hariri and the others is now fully exposed for what it is. Now that he has the government, he has all that he needs in the ministries to develop the evidence and present it to the STL and to punish its enemies with the truth? And is this what he is doing? No. He continues to flee from the STL. Flight is always proof of guilt.

Default-user-icon Hratch (ضيف) 16:46 ,2011 حزيران 23

The STL clause must be replaced with this:
Now that Rafic has been barbecued, his Mafia is being dismantled and Feltman's stooges will be dragged to jail pending their hanging, Lebanon is on its way to its long-awaited Spring. The STL can keep sending us reports on high-quality and finest kinds of paper. We will cut them into squares and distributed them equally on all restaurants where they can use them as coasters or toilet paper.

Default-user-icon Pacifier (ضيف) 17:04 ,2011 حزيران 23

Beiruti, your words are more than enough to explain this disgusting situation we have come to, you are right 1000% , since they have everything they need, as well as the justice ministry, why dont they trace the '' False witnesses '' and get it over with? prove to us that Israel commited the crime and it is a Zionist plan to kill Lebanon, here are some things we need to understand :

- The defendant is innocent until proven guilty, nobody said Hezbollah is guilty yet, so why are they so scared?
- Sayyed Hassouni showed us his very hard to convince evidence that Israel did it, MP Sami Gemayel put him back in his place because he proved that the picture Hassouni showed was taken way before 2005, so Hassouni is a false wtiness too?
- There are false witnesses, like ANY case in the world, and the STL is impartial , and about the 4 million finger prints, this is a lie, and you can see which newspaper posted it, if it isnt AL AKHBAR, mouthpiece of March 8th, just to discredit STL

Default-user-icon Pacifier (ضيف) 17:15 ,2011 حزيران 23

- I wonder why when the investigators came to Dahieh they were beaten up by guys wearing niqab disguised as women and stole personal stuff?

- Is it too hard to believe ? when even if our own Security force or army wants to dismantle illegal properties , they throw rocks at them and beat them up?

- Some theories say that Hezbollah Members executed it with orders from the syrians and something very possible suggests that Hezbollah is infiltrated by the Mossad, which in coordination with Hezbollah members executed it . but yet again they could have fed those people to the STL, and maybe Hassouni didnt know, but remember when he said that there is no secret inside Hezbollah and he knows it all? so he knew that Rafik Hariri was going to get killed by some members of his party? he is guilty as well.

- Michel Aoun covering them is guilty as well, and it is obvious HA did it because Hariri senior was a danger to their reign not like Lahoud who permitted their expansion

Default-user-icon Pacifier (ضيف) 17:20 ,2011 حزيران 23

- It is a shame they did it, specially that it is RAFIK HARIRI that gave them parliament seats, and on purpose so the international community recognises them as part of Lebanese governement and not a terrorist organisation. It is Hariri that many times defended them world wide, those are FACTS undeniable, but seeing that they didnt want to disarm at the end, although he was trying to get them to slowly enter lebanese politics and become a normal party, he then tried to get the resolution 1559 to get Syria out and disarm ALL MILITIAS and Palestinians as well !! and yet he got killed.

- Finally a small conclusion, Aounist Phenicien, please you never answer me , can you go check some big shareholders names in SOLIDERE? they are affiliated to your BELOVED GMA, it is a fact and aounist told me so, so this B.S about solidere robbing money, well sorry to tell you your own people screwed you as well :) wake up , and look at reality, if we allow syria to govern us, the world will isolate us.

Missing applesandoranges 17:36 ,2011 حزيران 23

Now sit back and watch how Syria's cronies -Nasrallah and Aoun- try to wiggle their way out of this one.

Thumb tabasco 17:48 ,2011 حزيران 23

hezeb & fpm are hiding behind their finger !

Missing peace 18:48 ,2011 حزيران 23

the funny thing is that "god s victory" hahaha tell people he has evidence against israel about the murders.
why then didn t they give it to the stl? or he has nothing but brainwashing people about its politization!
here is another plot!!! (funny thing that all dictatorships as soon as people are against the regime they yell that it is a foreign plot against them!)
strange isn t it!

Default-user-icon Fardi (ضيف) 19:15 ,2011 حزيران 23

Pacifier, you poor innocent angel, nobody is scared but those whose plans for using the STL. You are not aware that 4 innocent generals were jailed for 4 years, were almost hanged, and Lahoud was almost thrown in jail himself; have not read the leaks in so many papers for so long; do not hear what Al Mustaqbal al mrett repeats day and night (since Syria was no longer, or until new further notice re-accused); have not read WikiLeaks; have not heard of the fabrications by the false witnesses; have not watched HakikaLeaks; have not read what Mehlis, a corrupt imbecile, wrote; have not heard about the resignations at the STL; are not aware of the give and take between Bellemare and Daniel Fransen over Jamil al Sayyed's dosuments and lawsuits... Where have you been you poor little angel? maskin enta chou bari2. Yeah, let's wait. The book is known from its title, little angel.

Missing peace 22:14 ,2011 حزيران 23

justice and truth for the hezbollah means : OUR justice and OUR truth! everything else is a conspiracy.....

Thumb shab 23:04 ,2011 حزيران 23

Filthy non-Islamic mafia militia must be elminated

Thumb dasphinx 00:14 ,2011 حزيران 24

I am shaking my head in disbelief. After all, Hariri helped Hezbollah stay off Europe's terrorist organizations list and they stand accused of killing him it seems. Are they afraid that evidence would come out? They cannot be trusted.

Default-user-icon Pacifier (ضيف) 03:44 ,2011 حزيران 24

Fardi, i have some questions for you :

- Hariri was a threat to who mostly? wasnt he the strong Sunni man of Lebanon?

- Why would Israel kill him? to undermine Lebanon? it doesnt need that, Lebanon was better off sold to the Syrians since Taef and washington and Israel were very ok with that.

- Why would Israel want to destroy Lebanon? to steal what? our oil? our polluted water? our water that we have been wasting for years? it has enough money to buy reserves for 2 centuries.

- Israel wants NOTHING that we, Lebanese , have, because we dont have anything to offer, exept prostitution of our girls to the Saudis , prostitution of our politicians to the US and Iran and Syria, no laws, no respect for one another.

- Israel is just happy the way things are, it doesnt want more or less. Hezbollah and Syria killed hariri so they can take over this mess and change it to their own pretty mess. thats it . they did a mistake, and are going to pay for it.

Default-user-icon Pacifier (ضيف) 03:49 ,2011 حزيران 24

- How do u want me to believe Hezbollah is not guilty? here are the reasons why i cant remove the guilt from them or the Syrians and blame only Israel :

- Hezbollah gave a cover for Israel since 1982, no palestinian militia can organise any attack from the south , they are not allowed, thus protecting Israel's borders on the north. Same reasons why Israel didnt finish them off in 2006 and prefered the UN so it can still leave Hezbollah, staunt, doing nothing and the Lebanese now have to bear them .

- Hezbollah blow up in pieces a young soldier Samer Hanna, his 2 other companions, Chiite, werent harmed, he was killed after the Helicopter was asked to land and they say it was an accident.

- Hezbollah took over Beirut and Chouf and killed Lebanese on May 7th

- Hezbollah is hiding weapons in christians areas, why it isnt for some no good purpose?

- Hezbollah covers for people that are stealing public and private properties in the South.