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wise words. thank u Mr. President.

Thank you Mr. President for a wise message.
It is getting ridiculous, embarrassing and ugly as all this political bickering will lead to nowhere except disaster.
Enough political dancing .
Time for action and removal of old politicians who have been in their seats for decades.

Religion and democracy do not mix.
Keep your religion to oneself and spread democracy to others

The army has to be held accountable if it is proved that they let hizballa fight along them against another lebanese sect. justice needs to be served.

The demands Of mustaqbal regarding arm free Saida are very wise. However this is not acceptable to hizbullah.

Looks like Suleiman finally grew some balls and snapped back at the February 14 Saudi-Wahabis.

3 people (thumbing freemind down) want civil war.

3 people (thumbing freemind down) want civil war.

i am counting, so that is 5, no 7, no 8... 8 people on this forum want civil war. keep it coming guys. u'll get it if u really want it.

I see that people on this forum prefer war to civil peace.
I think I better leave this site before i get totally depressed.
Better things to do than engage in non-communication with obtuse minds.
Flamethrower, Phoenix1 i think u shld do the same.
But of course u r free to do as u please.
It is still a free country (for the moment)

I see that people on this forum prefer war to civil peace.
I think I better leave this site before i get totally depressed.
Better things to do than engage in non-communication with obtuse minds.
Flamethrower, Phoenix1 i think u shld do the same.
But of course u r free to do as u please.
It is still a free country (for the moment)

This horse is already out of the barn. When the Army is committed to responding to sedition from one sector, that is from the Sunni cleric Assir, but then is not committed to responding to sedition from the Shia Hezbollah, this sort of thing will happen. Hezbollah has successfully politicized the LAF by setting up red lights to responding to one type of sedition and green lights for others.
The LAF should be committed to ending ALL acts of sedition coming from any and all quarters. Hezbollah should not be spared. That it is being spared, puts the Army de facto into the political pot.

By so doing, the LAF and its credibility as a national institution has been undermined by the political class particularly by Hezbollah and its allies.
The Army is the Army, the State is the State. Except in Lebanon, the Army has a parallel armed institution, Hezbollah. The State has a parallel political entity, the Shura Council of Hezbollah. It is difficult at times to detect who is in charge of the country. And what sedition against the State means. Sedition against the Republic of Lebanon or sedition against Hezbollah.
The duality must end. The solution to an armed Hezbollah is not an armed Salafist camp. Rather, the solution is that all political parties, including Hezbollah, must surrender their arms to the State and everyone must agree to live under the rule of law as established by the democratic institutions of the state.

Long live the Leb Army. Don't mess with it!

Amazing , our LAF have been targeted & killed from the north, south, east, & west trying to uphold stability & security in our nation yet we have certain MPs attacking, defaming , discrediting our young brave sons wear the Lebanese uniform instead of trying to hand in the enemies of our country, where is Assir ? Where Fadel Shaker? Who is harbouring them? Shouldn't this be the main issue? But instead of praising our soldiers for keeping civil peace you MPs are degrading them for your own greedy means. Shame on you, shame on all your families yah MPs that are against our LAF ...your certainly not Lebanese !

The LAF must be even handed in dealing with those who would take up arms against the people of Lebanon, her government or her Army. It must deal with all violations in the same manner, otherwise it compromises its credibility.
It is not sufficient to cheer the Army when it cracks on Sunnis, as the basis for the cheering may represent a sectarian animus against Sunni rather than support for the nation and the institution of the Army.
The same is true when the Army cracks on Shia, or Druze or Christian or any other sect that happens to be acting in violation of the nation. There should be no cheers raised from an anti-Shia, anti-Christian or anit-Druze animus, but because the Army is standing strong for the Republic.

Hezbollah "Resistance Brigades" have compromised this perception of the Army and have thus "messed with" the Army. Who defames the Army? Partisan sectarian militia who use the Army as a shield under which they settle sectarian scores with other armed confessional groups. These defame the Army.

The Army must be freed of partisan political constraints so that it may perform its mission of safeguarding the security of the Republic. It cannot perform this mission if its political leadership allows it to be coopted into one partisan armed faction or the other. The Army is above all factions. The brave young men do not put their lives in danger to promote a partisan agenda, but to protect and defend the Republic which is made of all sects, all confessional groups and all parties. The Army is not for one, it is for all; it is from all.

@FT, you read into posts what you will as is your right. If you find sectarian agitation in my post, it is only because you have fabricated and invented it. Life must be nice as a Naharnet troller. You do it so well.

@freemind, please do not give a rat's behind what who thumbs you up or down because it matters not. What matters is to speak your mind as long as you do not degenerate to the level of some sorry excuses for human being who post here which as far as I can see you have not. We respect and interact with people like you.

There is no excuse to condemn the army institution for the actions of a few degenerates thugs who committed crimes for which they will be punished. Those who are dragging the army into their political BS, yes you M14 damn you, aught to be ashamed for resorting to the same tactics of M8 and sinking to their level. Both M14 and M8 are enemies of the state as far as I am concerned and both should be booted out.

@beiruti
In which camp do live in ? Even the poorest of the poor " TRUE LEBANESE" the only pride they have is in the CEDAR TREE.
So please don't be like some of your MPs who defames our young men in greens, you to along with your fellow traitors including those MPs should be "Booted" out of our country!

Very well said. Also, isn't it true that Israel is or has already drilled the sea floor some 4 kilometers deep arguably into Lebanese territory while Lebanon lets itself be drawn back and forth from internal to regional conflicts? The people just don't or can't see it. None of the regional countries want to see Lebanon succeed. Not Saudi Arabia, Israel, Syria or Iran, and the corrupt, shortsighted billionaires who we have intrusted to govern the country and manage our affairs allow this to happen and get richer. They give you religion that sparks and triggers an emotional response to keep you busy from the real/important issues that goes undetected in the backgrounds. Wake up people!

@spirit. I live in neither camp. Only the Lebanese national camp is my camp.. None of the MPs are mine. It is a sample of how twisted these so called "true Lebanese" have become that unless you are in one camp or the other that you are some sort of traitor fit only to be booted out. If you want to call me a traitor to the FPM, or Mustaqbel, or to the PSP, AMAL, please be my guest. If to be a Lebanese national I am a traitor to the partisans who put party or sect above country, Spirit, then I'm the worst traitor on this site.

Who here is knowledgeable enough to say if the Lebanese Army is independently strong enough to stifle and disarm any ethnic/religious group by just intimidation or by very little human blood and without outside interference. If the Lebanese know and agree H.A.'s arms is a gift and support truly and solely Lebanese interests, then it is a no brainer and it would have been incorporated under one army/flag years ago. Whether or not you like or agree with H.A., it is a proxy Iranian/Syrian force and most likely will receive the support of Iran and/or the Syrian army in case the Lebanese army decides to interfere with their goals and agendas. So, it is not really fair to pass judgment on the "army" in general, but rather our judgment, aggression and criticism should be directed towards those politicians or the high ranking army officials who are serving foreign interests.

@spirit. Ole Buddy, you need to calm down a bit. Get off the weed and chill a little bit. Cedar Trees, yes, very nice, I've been to see what's left of them. Those that are left still stand tall. Greed and aravice, profit and selfishness caused the great cedar forests of Lebanon to be reduced to a remnant patch. But the patch of cedars survives, the symbol of eternity and of our nation, Lebanon. They will survive all things.
Even fanatics.

@spirit. Ole Buddy, you need to calm down a bit. Get off the weed and chill a little bit. Cedar Trees, yes, very nice, I've been to see what's left of them. Those that are left still stand tall. Greed and aravice, profit and selfishness caused the great cedar forests of Lebanon to be reduced to a remnant patch. But the patch of cedars survives, the symbol of eternity and of our nation, Lebanon. They will survive all things.
Even fanatics.