تننتي: لا تفويض لـ "اليونيفيل" برسم الحدود البحرية بين لبنان واسرائيل

Who the hell asked UNIFIL to demarcate borders? Why are we behaving like amateurs? Don't our ministers know that UNIFIL's mission is peacekeeping? Why do we put ourselves under this situation where a small UNIFIL employee has to patronize us by telling us what his scope is what is not his scope? Why dont we ge a professional international legal team to draft a complaint to the correct instances in the UN?

Fadi: if Lebanon has dispute over marine borders with Israel, sit to the table with your neighbor and talk.
The negotiation table is better than dreaming of war.
If you don't have the guts to do so be quiet.

Which negotiating table do you suggest? Israel does not negotiate with neighbours unless after a major war. It violates lebanon's soveignity on a daily basis through mock air raids and breaking of the sound barrier, and bibi has said they will not stop the violations. Israel steals the water and diverts canals and streams, continues to occupy ghajjar village even in direct contravention of resolution 1701 that ended the 2006 war. I am sure Lebanon will negotiate but only with a willing partner which does not exist in Israel. We are stuck with 400,000 Palestinian refugees and their families that were kicked out of their homes and villages by Israel in 48 and 67. Yes, negotiate, we welcome it, But you don't have the guts to negotiate on all the issues, so shut up!

Ado: You live in Australia , a quiet country, you can play with your children in the garden without threat of a suicide bomber to blow himself up in buses , schools or night clubs. you know the feeling you were living in Lebanon when you had a civil war.
You blame Israel for all of Lebanon troubles? why did Lebanon opened its borders to terror groups ? why did Lebanon turned from a quiet country to a nest of terror acts against Israel from Lebanese soil?
You mention the outcome of stupidity of Lebanon.,
You don't ask for example what would another country do with threaten of thousands of rockets and missiles targeted toward its cities and towns.
What war exactly was ended between Lebanon and Israel ?
It the Ghajjar village only reason for dispute? when was this village Lebanese and its inhabitants were same . Why don't you ask them weather they want to return to Lebanon at all?
You sit to the table with partners , yes, same as we sit with Jordan and Egypt and not under threat of Iran.

Ado: Speaking of 400 thousand refugees in Lebanon? and what exactly did Lebanon for them? and what did the rich countries like KSA or UAE for them? what kind of civil rights Lebanon gave them ? or the contrary , Lebanon did all she could to avoid any human rights.
Speaking of refugee, the UN in 29th November 1947 gave a solution of partition Palestine into 2 countries: guest who objected.
They pay once again the stupidity of Arab leaders who were dreaming till now to wipe out Israel.
Speaking of refugees and their return to Palestine, we had also 1.2 million Jewish refugees expelled from the Arab countries like Iraq, Egypt , Syria , North Africa, forced to leave their property.
Contrary to the crocodile tears from Arabian countries of the poor Palestinian we rehabilitated Jewish refugees gave them a country and hope.
We built a country and Arabs still dream of liquidating Israel.
We still live after so many years under threat of terror gangs like Hezb and you blame Israel for that.

Danny. Yes I am lucky to live in a beautiful peaceful nation. Yes, Israelis live under constant threat of missiles and bombings. But you reap what you sow Danny. Do the lebanese, especially the southern Lebanese not live under the same threat? Hezbollah is the ultimate example of what happens when a people have been living under such death and destruction. It was not the Lebanese that started this situation or attacked Israel. You say we opened our border to terrorist? You wask what we did for the palestinians? Well we opened our homes as well to the refugees that Israel created. Our country was once the Switzerland (banking)and Paris(culture) and every other example of freedom in the middle east. the envy of the world. And look what we did for the Palestinians, we had our country destroyed!
You talk about ghajjar... Let us see how many "villages" in Israel and occupied territories, want to be apart of a "Jewish" Israel?

The Jewish refugees that came to Israel were not forced out..

But were encouraged by the zoinist plan to come to Israel and ben gurion also states this plan to encourage ethinic cleansing by all means. Jews are not a problem, there are Jewish Lebanese families in my village in Lebanon front he Haddad families and they will never be bothered...
The problem is so simple Danny, the Arabs in 2000 Beirut conference offered Israel a peace deal. Give back the lands captured in 1967 and there will be peace! The 1948 refugees can be resettled and compensated in western countries and and the 67 return or compensated in other nations outside Lebanon. Full stop. Peace in the middle east! You know it, everyone knows it. But Israel with liberman and bibi will never accept it. The hard core extremist in israel will kill any one who has the balls to want peace, like the hero yitzac rabbin.
Until then we will only hope and dream that not too many more die before Israel relizes its on the wrong side of history. Occupiers eventually Lose!

Ado, in 1928-1929 there was no Jewish state and Jews of Hebron (El Halil) were slaughtered.
Same happen in other villages and towns.
In 2nd world war there was no Israel then, but the Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin El Husseini became an ally to Germans declared Jihad on Jews, not Israeli-Jews and sent his troops to be under the SS command.
In 1947 after UN resolution once again we were attacked by local Arabs and forces from outside Israel.
same after Israel became independent.
We did not cause the Palestinian problems, They started war and lost.
They must be responsible for their mistakes.
Israel is our country not less than the Palestinians but we were ready to split it including giving up the holly city of Jerusalem to be given to international control, guess who refused it.
You want Israel now to receive in its territory the return of Palestinian refugee., just thinking what would have happen to Jews in Palestine if we were loosing this war. we can see "Israeli lovers" in Gaza strip.

Danny.b
31.10.45Jewish terrorist against British rule in Palestine, wave of bomb attacks on police, railway sites and Haifa oil refinery. 5 killed
27.11.45 8 British soldiers killed in bomb attack Jerusalem, in Jewish Irgun terrorist attack.
22.7.46 90 people killed and forty five wounded after Jewish terrorists blow up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. The terrorists held workers at pistol point while they planted the explosives in the basement of the hotel. Jewish Irgun terrorists kidnap and then hang 2 British Army sergeants.
29.9.47 Jewish Irgun terrorists bomb police station in Haifa, killing 4 British and 4 Arabs
12.12.47 20 Arabs, 5 Jews and 2 British soldiers killed and thirty wounded in Jewish terrorist attacks on buses in Haifa and Ramleh.
29.12.47Jewish Irgun terrorists throw grenades from passing taxi into café near the Damascus gate, killing 11Arabs. 2British
9.4.48 Jewish Irgun terrorist group attacks Deir Yassim, Palestine,murdering 254 Arabs.

Your point again??

Danny,

I am living in Lebanon, and I am pretty moderate. I will go back to your main point "why don't you sit with Israel and simply negotiate"
If we do negotiate or even talk to Israel, it will give legitimacy to Israel. Israel is craving for our aknowledging its right to exist. That is the only thing they want from us, And the only card we have as lebanese. If we give this card, we will never get the palestinians out. BUT WE WANT THEM OUT OF HERE. and we wont talk to you until you take them back or send them to the US, or anywhere in a honorable way. See, you stole or bought or bullyied them out of their land. They are YOUR problem. Deal with them. And dont throw them on us. Once you do that, Hezbollah, weapons, all that bullshit will slowly fade away.

no wonder that usa is a big friend to israel: same methods of ethnical cleansing.
the americans killed ,slaughtered and parked native americans in reservations and israel did the same with palestinians.

israel will never accept the return of palestinians for the simple reason that it would change the demography! and the state would no longer be jewish.

israel was a big ally of apartheid south africa because they are also an apartheid state.
peace? no they don t want peace, it would mean less military cooperation and money from the usa. they prefer to be surrounded by ennemies to justify their victim position and receive money from usa.
they didn t learn from history and the horror the jewish people suffered from the nazis because they are using the same methods with palestinians...
israel has to make the first step towards peace not the arabs!
because the arabs are victim not israel...

fisrt thing to do : start and comply with the UN resolutions against you!

Ado.Australia / Fadi. Ado you gave me list of terror acts made by Jews but what a surprise you did not mention any massacre or terror made by Arabs.
As if we are talking about children of mother Teresa.
Come on grow up.
King Hussein killed in one month more Palestinian than Israel did in 65 years.
Muslims in Iraq killing each other with larger Numbers we can think about.
Even Lebanon suffered from internal wars with hundreds of thousands casualties. (Don't forget to blame Israel for that.)
We never noticed you boycott your neighbor of today who slaughtered your family years back.
Same with Israel, if you had brave leaders you sit to the table and talk with no pre-conditions as peace you make with enemies.
Its up to you to decide weather both countries will continue counting their death or to look for solution.
As father to 3 Sons and as 2nd generation to holocaust survivors we know how looks hate and what hate can do.
I'll do all i can to protect my country - Yes my country .

Danny B... Stop with your bedtime stories about the mufti of Jerusalem (http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2010/05/ACHCAR/19109) which is pure propaganda and u should know that.

In fact, Arabs protected jews during WWII all over north Africa, if that was not the case, many would have been killed.

That said, the Tora can't be considered as a proof that it's the land of jews it is simply ridiculous.

U know perfectly well also that Zionist started killing arabs & ethnic cleansing operations before the creation of a Jewish state helped by the sentiment of guilt of Europeans.

Peace wrote a very good post as well describing the apartheid state Israel is so please, stop complaining, u r not the victim here and Palestinians certainly don't need u to talk about their rights.

We and all arabs are not guilty whatsoever of what was done to Jews during WWII but Zionist are certainly guilty for the many Palestinians expelled or dead... STOP!