جعجع يدعو لحكومة "حيادية عن 8 و14 آذار"

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دعا رئيس "حزب القوات اللبنانية" سمير جعجع الى تشكيل حكومة حيادية عن الفريقين الآذاريين، و"ليس عن السياسة السيادية المتمثلة بإعلان بعبدا".

وتمنى جعجع في تصريح الى "المركزية"، الثلاثاء، على رئيسي الجمهورية ميشال سليمان والمكلف تمام سلام، "عدم اضاعة اي لحظة اضافية واستخدام صلاحياتهما الدستورية في تشكيل حكومة حيادية عن فريقي 8 و14 آذار وليس عن السياسة السيادية المتمثلة باعلان بعبدا".

واعتبر أن "هكذا خطوة باتت انقاذية ملحة لمصلحة الوطن."

ولفت الى أن "الأوضاع المتردية والمتفلتة على مختلف الصعد، تجعل البلاد في حاجة ماسة إلى حكومة فعلية وفاعلة".

وقال: "للمرة الأولى تُثبت التجارب أن ما يسمى بالحكومة الجامعة، تحول دون تشكيلها عقبات بحجم الجبال، تبدأ بالجانب السياسي السيادي، ولا تنتهي بمجموعة تفاصيل وحصص وحسابات تتعلق بشهوات ومصالح خاصة لا تقف عند حد".

واعتبر أن الحكومة "الممكنة، التي تلبي، ولو بالحد الأدنى، المقومات السياسية السيادية كمدخل أساسي لاستقرار مقبول في البلد، وتكون بعيدة عن منطق المحاصصة والشهوات والمصالح والرغبات، هي حكومة حيادية".

يُشار الى أن المساعي الحكومية اقتربت من الوصول الى خواتيمها، الا أن العقدة الاخيرة تبقى تمسك "التيار الوطني الحر" برفضه مبدأ المداورة بالحقائب الوزارية، وحصوله على وزارة الطاقة والمياه، ومن المفترض أن تشكل الحكومة تبعاً لصيغة 8-8-8.

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Thumb ice-man 14:35 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Hakim w'bass!

Default-user-icon setright (ضيف) 15:04 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Lol.

Missing helicopter 18:18 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

josepsyriani,
Your non-patisan posts are illuminating to the feeble minds of sectarians like myself and others like me on this forum. The takfiri label assigned to your opponent is only a powerful sign of the strength of your ideas.

Thumb cedre 20:57 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

+1000 bani, easy to recognize the real patriots to the greedy ones...

Thumb freedomarch 05:04 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

God Bless Our great Leader Samir.

Thumb freedomarch 05:05 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

as for Hassan Stay down down down...

Thumb freedomarch 05:06 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

As for Awon, God bless his soul, he is really excusable.

Thumb primesuspect 15:05 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

I agree w/ GeeGee's. A neutral cabinet will work in lebanon's interests only and won't be partisan. however, it may become a problem 4 the shia terroristas because they r working against lebanon.

Thumb -phoenix1 15:42 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

Don't worry for your future primesister, they've all agreed to give you the floor cleaning job, now you can sleep tight at night.

Default-user-icon setright (ضيف) 15:05 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

You're the last one to talk buddy.

Thumb cedars2 15:06 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Allah maak ya Hakim!!

Thumb ice-man 15:19 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

lol

Thumb ice-man 15:10 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

@samy: I am a non violent person. But, I do agree with your observation about his deformity.

Thumb ice-man 15:13 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

@Southern: Once again you demonstrate your hatred and immaturity towards intellectuals and respected members of society. I have tried to befriend you, coach you, help you but to no avail. You are intent on harassing me for no reason.

BTW, are you going to be part of the resistance Olympic team in Sotchi?

Thumb ice-man 15:17 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

@samy: I have noticed that you have misspelled @Mystic's name. Was that intentional? Please, confirm samy.

Thumb ice-man 15:19 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Don't worry, check his votes in a few hours.

Thumb ex-fpm 15:25 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

22 minutes ago LBCI: Residents of al-Arida blocked the highway with burning tires protesting the power shortage.

More evidence of Bassil's and the FPM great achievements in the energy sector!

Thumb ice-man 15:29 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

I see.... actually, this new variation to his name suits him better. It appears to be a perfect fit.

Default-user-icon Hanoun (ضيف) 15:33 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

they must be also neutral financialy ie they should not be involved in business with any country so these countries do not pressure them

Thumb cedars2 15:46 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

rofl ice "deformity" it coiuld be the result of inbreeding

Thumb cedars2 15:48 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Drone drone drone... if they make a government with m8 you are not happy, if they make one without you are unhappy, What do you want???!!! vilayat al faqih?

Thumb ice-man 15:55 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

@cedars: It is not uncommon for mentally challenged people to have difficulty articulating what they want. When @Jaafar comes on he will tell you. BTW, he is lurking in the background:)

Thumb cedars2 16:16 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Jaafar is getting ready to sign in on his 20 other nicknames. His purpose?
To receive another congratulations letter from the al manar director. I am told he's been promised an extra 20 liters of diesel and a bag of rice.

Thumb ex-fpm 16:00 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

rofl, ice-man!

Thumb ice-man 16:06 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

No, you are theresistance!

Thumb ice-man 16:10 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

roar the bore does too:)

Thumb cedars2 16:17 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Same thing right? Both have superpowers and fight evil.

Thumb cedars2 16:18 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

The roar for foreign minister!!

Thumb ice-man 16:28 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

leb_roar: Please, I urge you to stick to the topic at hand and embrace it.

Thumb ice-man 16:35 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

leb_roar: your proposed cabinet lineup is unconstitutional. The foreign minister must be a shia. I propose Flamethrower for that post.

Thumb ex-fpm 16:38 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

I CANNOT stop laughing:))))))))))))))

Thumb -phoenix1 17:46 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Mystice. Take for instance the massive theft and pilfering of state coffers and state properties, do you know how long that has been going on, and done by every single side and all sects. Can we go on like this forever? Masalan take EDL, or for that matter any other service or utility of the land, is any of them all working like it should? Water? Anything ya bro, nothing works, and why? Because of theft and the pilfering of the treasury and the nation's income. In 2104, Lebanon should in fact be a leader in all fields, you name it, we should be at the forefront. Till now, nothing works well here. The thieves, yes, that's right, the thieves keep stealing, and they keep protecting each others backs, they are now all so worried that their mountains of crimes will be discovered, paper by paper.

Thumb -phoenix1 17:47 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

**, Sorry Typo, I meant Mystic. **

Thumb -phoenix1 17:56 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Has anyone of you gone to any state office to do some papers lately? Any office please, haven't you all felt highly insulted by the way state employees treat you, delay you, invent one charge after the other just to skin you alive? Is this normal? Does anyone of them feel that they will have to render accounts one day? No, they all feel above the law, their traditional bosses are here to protect them, common, walaw? This is the lawless Lebanon that we all live in, it's a jungle, that simple. I remember when Bachir was not even elected yet as president, go to any Public Office, anyone I'll challenge you all, go take care of any paper and see how very polite, clean, and absolutely efficient they all were, from the bosses to the door keeper, they all knew who the big man would be. The people lived well then, the crooks were scared to death, but alas, the people's man got killed, and so were the people, and the mafia lives to this day. God knows Lebanon needs to change.

Thumb ice-man 16:25 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

well, .... yes but not exactly. Batman never fought takfiris:)

Thumb cedars2 16:34 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Hahaha

Thumb -phoenix1 16:42 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Here I stand by Geagea's position, nothing he said here is wrong but right. It may not sound as good music to anyone who is delaying the proposed government, but truth is that with all this foot-dragging, accentuated by the mutual mistrust reigning supreme between allies of the M8 side and against the M14 side, our only way out of this situation is for the president to order the formation of neutral cabinet by Salam made up entirely and only of technocrats. Since the two main political M formations cannot agree on anything, paralyzing the country completely mean only one thing, let this new neutral cabinet see the light, and let our Mafia Ms take a back seat and start suffering their heart attacks. Anyone can run the nation better than the two of them. Yalla.

Thumb Mystic 16:59 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

A neutral government with Geagea on point. How would it be neutral then?

Thumb -phoenix1 17:13 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Mystic, a neutral cabinet should mean by all means one that is not affiliated to either M8 or M14, or in fact to any political party. this neutral cabinet should be made up entirely of technocrats and highly qualified professionals who will take their orders only from their boss, PM Salam. Masalan, here I would vehemently propose the post of Finance and Energy for the best of the best, I really mean it, Mr. Demianos Khattar. Mr. Salam I am told has a very good line up of truly and truly good people, young, energetic, experienced, patriotic, zestful, very capable, man, you name it, they have it in them. Their only nationality is Lebanon, their only religion is Lebanon, their only party is Lebanon. Please bro, let's allow them the chance to work for us all, they can do it, and they will prove that in a very short time, they will fix the country back, something neither M8 or M14 can do, just let's give them the chance, for them, and for us all, that's all bro, that's all.

Thumb -phoenix1 17:04 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Roar, no matter what you will say of me, I will never take it personally. You are my younger brother, I love you, you are punching me hard on the stomach, but my being the elder will take them coming from you. I pray one day you and I will meet, sit over a cool beer and enjoy what real friendship is, and I mean it. Sadly, politics do divide us once in a while, at least you are not a fake with me, and neither am I to you. despite is all, I stand by my views, they are me, the Phoenix and no one else'. Geagea though not my favorite cup of tea, but his positions remain far more viable with most people, Aoun to me remains a maverick, as unpredictable as ever. And I remain proud, in fact very proud to keep Sheikh Bachir Al Gemayel, my teacher, my commander, my hero, my KA2ED as my proofile picture. Bachir remains engraved till my last moment, Inshalah.

Thumb -phoenix1 17:41 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Mystic brother, a neutral cabinet very much means a cabinet made representing all sects, here there's absolutely no disagreement, every sect will be represented. In fact, people in the know will tell you that the line up consists of exactly that. However where the novelty is, resides with the fact that none belong to any party, neither M8 affiliated nor M14. So far, has any traditional person been able to move the nation an inch forward or miles backwards? With all the problems mounting on our heads all, can we afford to procrastinate any further? This neutral cabinet simply scares the living daylights of the old establishment, for two main reasons: One, it will prove how inefficient they the old guard have been for decades, and from thence they will no longer ne able to steal from state coffers or for that matter anything else, as accountability will be the order of the day, Two, because of that, the people will have faith in the new faces and loathe the old ones, all of them in fact.

Thumb Mystic 17:00 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

Always good to see the girls are having fun.

Thumb ice-man 17:30 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

well then, get into your "hassanmobile" and get going:)

Thumb legit 18:01 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

@the_roar,
Good choice. It rhymes!

Missing samy2 18:09 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

lol, yes he missed this statement

Missing helicopter 18:21 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

legit,
See my comment to josephsyriani. Another non-sectarian comment with the label "Saudi culture attached to M14" to display the powerful ideas you guys display on this forum. Excuse my sectarianism please.

Missing helicopter 18:27 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

did you hear that mystic, josephani, legit .... etc.
Please listen to southern and stop dishing the "takfiri" and "Saudi culture" on M14 posters. To qoute southern "those who resort to insults are losers".
Well said southern, there is nothing for me to add.

Missing helicopter 18:30 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

legit,
Another non-hateful, non-sectarian post. According to southern those who resort to insults are losers.

Missing samy2 18:48 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

the thumbing down squad started to come out of their sewers in force.

Missing helicopter 18:57 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

lebpatriot,
Your non-sectarian and non-hateful posts are a model for all posters on this forum to heed by. I am trying to analyze your ideas on the "neutral Government" and why it is blatantly undemocratic. Would you please explain and expand further?

Missing helicopter 21:56 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

So you are unable to separate the message from the messenger.
So assume your Nasrallah made the same statement, would you support it then?

Missing helicopter 18:59 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

the_roar,
I honestly think that you (and others in your camp) are having difficulty separating the message from the messenger. I am confidant that if Aoun or Nasrallah proposed the same, your posted comments would be very different. Correct me if I am wrong.

Missing samy2 20:34 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

M11er
With all due respect, you are debating with ignorant, arrogant people who think they are untouchable. These arrogants remind me of SSNPer's who worshipped Saadi and took him as a god, killed and murdered in his name. I remember when I was young, I was lured by SSNP to join their ranks. The key to getting you: making you feel like you are someone special, very important and everyone else around you is a traitor, zionist, imperialist and the rest of the bullsh*t.

Missing samy2 20:38 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

In their perspective, you are a takfiri M!!er

Missing people-power 23:25 ,2014 كانون الثاني 28

The_bore...... get a life!

You have 28 posts on this one article.

You first post was 7 hours ago, which was 1:20 AM Sydney time, and you posted continuously until 3 hours ago, or 5:20 AM Sydney time.

Do you still claim you live in Australia? You work all day at MacDonald's, and then post all night on Naharnet?

When is there time to devote to your important charity?

Missing helicopter 02:12 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

the_roar,
The constitution does not stipulate that a party must approve a list in advance before allowing the Parliament to vote granting or denying confidence.
So we all should abide by the constitution whereby the PM and President aare allowed to form the list they desire and submit to Parliament for a vote. The Parliament then will vote and either grant or deny confidence. Anyone supporting a party or group to do otherwise is simply undermining the constitution.

Default-user-icon GameOver (ضيف) 04:55 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

It's too late. Incompetent and corrupt Lebanese politicians had 3 years to form a neutral government and secure Lebanon. You have squandered that opportunity. Now, you have to wait until the Geneva talks are over. By then, it will be too late, because both sides will know that they cannot coexist and will have to divide the country.

Default-user-icon GameOver (ضيف) 04:56 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

The Assad regime will look to its Lebanese allies to expand its territories. Hizb has already ceded Dahieh and in time will relocate whatever weapons left to more secure locations in Baalbek and South Lebanon. The road that runs from Baalbek through Zgharta to Tripoli will be the southern border of assad's greater syria. Assad will try to link this road to whatever parts of Damascus his regime still controls. Israel will welcome Hizb's buffer zone in the South that keeps al-qaeda jihadists from breaching its border with what used to be Lebanon. The rest of the country will be in turmoil. Jumblatt will control the Shouf mountains. The Christians will be split between FPM and Kataeb and LF. The Sunni's will also be split in different groups (moderates, conservatives, and extremists). All these groups will battle each other until one group consolidates power and rules them all.

Missing cedars 04:57 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

This proves that both Geagea and Aoun are not on any foreign country payroll because one wants a neutral and the other is stuck to the teleco and ol ministries. No one can influence or pay those two heads.

Thumb freedomarch 05:26 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

Hassan in Syria? yes LebParrot.

Thumb freedomarch 17:42 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

Naharnet users please bye a box of tissues ... and lets cry for the pure soul that the "Southern" is facing .. we ask to shed tears for the in-justuce .. this hizb-ebol member/supporter is facing on the hands of the Admin of Naharnet.
On the Side: Thanks for Annahar for giving us the only opportunity to express our moderate opinion in a calm and positive manner.

Thumb freedomarch 17:43 ,2014 كانون الثاني 29

Naharnet users please buy a box of tissues ... and lets cry for the pure soul that the "Southern" is facing .. we ask to shed tears for the in-justuce .. this hizb-ebol member/supporter is facing on the hands of the Admin of Naharnet.
On the Side: Thanks for Annahar for giving us the only opportunity to express our moderate opinion in a calm and positive manner.