Aoun on Samaha’s Case: Let the Judiciary Complete its Duties

followers are those who follow blindly their syrian and iranian masters trying to cover for their bad actions in Lebanon.
followers are excutors for the syrian regime against the lebanese population.
followers are those playing the sectarian card, always trying to freighten us with salafis and wahabis, while it all came up in the open lately, that their master the syrian regime is behind such bad actions.
followers are those who support hizbushaitan whatever they do.
followers.... are fpm.

by the way: you fpmers being followers is neither a compliment nor an insult: it is a reality.
you are followers acting with the axis of evil against your fellow Lebanese.
it does not matter how much you try to twist reality, the Lebanese people are intelligent, and see through you.

@geha

You assume that I'm an FPM follower, or that I have Iranian and Syrian masters? Well hate to break this to you but I'm not.

When I said you're the typical Lebanese political follower, it means only looking at the faults of one side without questioning the faults of the other and without disputing a so-called evidence. I've noticed that about your comments on this website.

Another typical characteristics of yours is to quickly denounce me as a Syrian/Iranian/Hizbushaitan(as you call them) master just because I criticize M14's policies, even though I could criticize M8's policies as well.

In other words, I don't take anybody's side because none did anything for Lebanon.

gcb1
you announced your colors by attacking me personally, saying I am a follower :) I have news for you:
I am an m14 policy maker :) and this can be verified from my posts, where I advise of stances before they are even advised to the public.
so following anybody is not my game, and rest assured I do see the errors of m14, but since this government is hijacked by hizbushaitan and their cronies, m14 have no participation in it.
this is why all comments are towards clarifying m8 errors.

please do remember that m14 is not a political party, rather a movement of several groups making the Lebanese population.
they cannot be tasked as followers as they are mostly ahead of m14 politicians, which they proved so many times.
whereas m8 are followers in the sense of what their leaders say they repeat without even thinking about the consequences of what is said.

@geha

You are an M14 policymaker? That doesn't make any sense dude. M14 is a loose coalition of political parties who share similar political views (just like M8). There is no central organization with an office called "M14", nor can you work for "M14". You can be a so-called policymaker for a party within M14, but you can't work for M14 persay. Please, I'm way too intelligent to fall for that.

Oh and by the way, Hezb has 2 ministers out of 30 in cabinet...not sure that means it is kidnapped by them.

M8 and M14 followers are the same usually. Both select the information that suits their views and question and reject those that don't. You are a perfect example of that.

a policy maker is any person involved in policy making.
m14 is NOT a group of political parties, M14 is a people movement who went ahead of their parties in defending the integrity of Lebanon.
so please correct your understanding.
while m8 is what you said a group of political parties of which the followers follow the leader blindly even if he is taking them to their death. :)

@geha

Where is my understanding wrong? You just said the same thing I said.M14 is a coalition of parties...that is what I said.

Anyway, you clearly lack intellectual capacity in order to try to reason with me. Ever read political science literature, or any academic article for that matter? Just by your unprofessional and flawed analysis of politics, I could tell you didn't. You're probably one of those people that go on youtube and wikipedia, read biased news outlets, then tell others to open their eyes.

Please.

@geha

M14 is a coalition of parties based on a people's movement, but nonetheless it is a coalition.

thank you for the insults which proves you are an m8 to the bone :)
I notice you still do not grasp the idea:
M14 is a movement of Lebanese people who were followed by some Lebanese parties, and not as you depict it, but then again, the concept is far from your understanding :)
case closed from my side.

@FT. My memory is alive and well, my friend. Aoun has always been animated by his Presidential fantasy. Now we know, that Aoun was not the original choice for Gemayel as interim PM when Gemayel's mandate ended in1988. Syria wanted Aoun and had promised him the Presidency then. result, Aoun declared war on the LF in 1989. Then when Syria refused to support Aoun in the election, Aoun turned on Syria and declared war on them until the Christian shariah was destroyed and occupied.
Then Aoun ran to France and kissed America's boots to support him. When that didn't happen, then Aoun cut a new deal with Assad to return to Lebanon and has been Assad's surrogate cover for Hezbollah since.
That's the history.

@lebnanfirst

If you've read many of my posts, you'd know that I've harshly criticized Assad and that I don't believe Hezb's arsenal of weapons is good for Lebanon. So please, if I criticized M14, doesn't mean I'm with M8, and if you claim to have read my posts, you would have seen me criticizing Assad and Hezb's weapons.

Don't jump to conclusions of my philosophy, for mine seems to be different than you all. I believe in a Lebanon comprised of political parties that have multiple sects within them, the abolition of the sectarian political system, and a re-focus on Lebanon's slumping economy and attracting foreign investment. To me, both M8 and M14 politicians sit there and are caught up with their foreign allegiances and geopolitics that do no good for the ordinary Lebanese people (even if the latter believe that it does).

As for your defense of the beloved Geha, I was simply pointing out that what he said did not make any sense, which seems to be consistent with much of his posts that are comprised mainly of speculation and little evidence.

I am not attacking him as an M14 follower (I respect and like to listen to Saleh el Machnouk, who constantly defends M14). It is not his views that I attack, but rather his flawed analysis (which also could be applied to M8 followers as well).

As for your defense of the beloved Geha, I was simply pointing out that what he said did not make any sense, which seems to be consistent with much of his posts that are comprised mainly of speculation and little evidence.

I am not attacking him as an M14 follower (I respect and like to listen to Saleh el Machnouk, who constantly defends M14). It is not his views that I attack, but rather his flawed analysis (which also could be applied to M8 followers as well).

I used to believe exactly as you do vis a non-sectarian political system for Lebanon where being Lebanese first is the rule for ALL. I have since realized that sectarianism is so deep rooted in the Lebanese psyche as to make it un-realistic to expect the Lebanese populace to make a leap that would totally overcome the prevalent sectarian chasm. With M8's attitude of my way or the highway (believe me I tried many time during discussions with M8 friends to reason with them about middle ground to no avail), I find myself gravitating more towards M14 philosophy. Given the state of affairs in Lebanon, I therefore choose the M14 polity as the vehicle to accomplish what you mentioned for all Lebanese.

and BTW, it is not that I am defending Geha per se, it is that simply attacking a person does in no way help advance the discussion or any given point of view.